Zonda values????
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Streetrod

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6,480 posts

232 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Hi folks, I wonder if you can help. I am trying to get a view on the market value of Zonda's at the moment. The few cars that seem to be for sale at the moment seem to be all in Europe and LHD. Also the prices are sky high with a Zonda's F's priced at 950,000 Euros.

So do the F's command a much higher value than a standard car if there is such a thing and what premium would you expect on a Roadster? Also would a RHD car be of lesser value than a LHD car?

The only UK car I have seen for sale recently is the C12S at Tom Hartley's which they have had for ages; does anyone know why this car has not sold?


http://www.tomhartley.com/usedcar/PAGANI/Zonda_C12...

lambo_xx

2,199 posts

223 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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I think Tom Hartley has had that one for sale a couple times i.e. supplied it to its previous owners. Other than that I'm afraid I can't provide and useful info.

Mr_C

2,503 posts

255 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Unfortunately Demand > Supply = very high residual prices.


munch997

2,325 posts

213 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Blue RHD zonda S coupe in parklane showroom, official opening is next saturday i think, with Mr.Pagani coming over. Shoebags CCR and the zonda have been joined by a BF Performance Murcielago.

Wanta996Gotta

5,622 posts

233 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Streetrod said:
Hi folks, I wonder if you can help. I am trying to get a view on the market value of Zonda's at the moment. The few cars that seem to be for sale at the moment seem to be all in Europe and LHD. Also the prices are sky high with a Zonda's F's priced at 950,000 Euros.

So do the F's command a much higher value than a standard car if there is such a thing and what premium would you expect on a Roadster? Also would a RHD car be of lesser value than a LHD car?

The only UK car I have seen for sale recently is the C12S at Tom Hartley's which they have had for ages; does anyone know why this car has not sold?


http://www.tomhartley.com/usedcar/PAGANI/Zonda_C12...
There was ex-hire Zonda owned by Rio prestige that went for just under £300k i think last year. It appeared in the Apprentice from what i remember. The Zonda F's 605bhp car at £900k is a bit of a joke as the car hardly justifies such a large increase over the initial 550bhp C12S. I guess its purely down to supply and demand as only 15 C12S's were produced(17 facelifted 7.3's).

Streetrod

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6,480 posts

232 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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munch997 said:
Blue RHD zonda S coupe in parklane showroom, official opening is next saturday i think, with Mr.Pagani coming over. Shoebags CCR and the zonda have been joined by a BF Performance Murcielago.
I spoke to the head of sales at the factory this morning. He informed me that the Park Lane car is owned by the factory and is for sale. He is going to email me across the information this afternoon.

Streetrod

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6,480 posts

232 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Wanta996Gotta said:
Streetrod said:
Hi folks, I wonder if you can help. I am trying to get a view on the market value of Zonda's at the moment. The few cars that seem to be for sale at the moment seem to be all in Europe and LHD. Also the prices are sky high with a Zonda's F's priced at 950,000 Euros.

So do the F's command a much higher value than a standard car if there is such a thing and what premium would you expect on a Roadster? Also would a RHD car be of lesser value than a LHD car?

The only UK car I have seen for sale recently is the C12S at Tom Hartley's which they have had for ages; does anyone know why this car has not sold?


http://www.tomhartley.com/usedcar/PAGANI/Zonda_C12...
There was ex-hire Zonda owned by Rio prestige that went for just under £300k i think last year. It appeared in the Apprentice from what i remember. The Zonda F's 605bhp car at £900k is a bit of a joke as the car hardly justifies such a large increase over the initial 550bhp C12S. I guess its purely down to supply and demand as only 15 C12S's were produced(17 facelifted 7.3's).
It appears that LHD cars sell for a lot more than RHD cars as the market is a lot larger.

And with the up and coming C9 which is going to be sold in lot larger numbers than the Zonda with a price tag of 900,000 Euros, this has had a large effect on Zonda values that seem to be heading skywards. Once the C9 comes on stream I can only see the Zonda getting even more expensive but I am not sure how high the prices may go. On the other hand the C9 might be so good it will put a damper on used Zonda sales so bringing prices down to a more reasonable level

munch997

2,325 posts

213 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Streetrod said:
munch997 said:
Blue RHD zonda S coupe in parklane showroom, official opening is next saturday i think, with Mr.Pagani coming over. Shoebags CCR and the zonda have been joined by a BF Performance Murcielago.
I spoke to the head of sales at the factory this morning. He informed me that the Park Lane car is owned by the factory and is for sale. He is going to email me across the information this afternoon.
smile nice! It's a stunning car, needs a bit of a dust though. I Would love to see what it look like in the sunlight rather than the darkness of the garage, i imagine the colour would look even better.
I was told by a friend the carbon F Roadster that was at MPH is also coming to the showroom, LHD but lovely.


andy74b

833 posts

253 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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Streetrod said:
munch997 said:
Blue RHD zonda S coupe in parklane showroom, official opening is next saturday i think, with Mr.Pagani coming over. Shoebags CCR and the zonda have been joined by a BF Performance Murcielago.
I spoke to the head of sales at the factory this morning. He informed me that the Park Lane car is owned by the factory and is for sale. He is going to email me across the information this afternoon.
I looked at this car at the factory. Car was out in the far east and brought back to the factory. Looks like new now and has a few upgrades from what I remember. Was surprised at the asking price.

Good luck with it, they are very special cars.


Thankyou4calling

10,903 posts

199 months

Monday 15th March 2010
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That black carbon fibre Zonda is porn, flippin porn. I would give a kidney for that. Forget all others, that tops them all for me.

Streetrod

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6,480 posts

232 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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andy74b said:
Streetrod said:
munch997 said:
Blue RHD zonda S coupe in parklane showroom, official opening is next saturday i think, with Mr.Pagani coming over. Shoebags CCR and the zonda have been joined by a BF Performance Murcielago.
I spoke to the head of sales at the factory this morning. He informed me that the Park Lane car is owned by the factory and is for sale. He is going to email me across the information this afternoon.
I looked at this car at the factory. Car was out in the far east and brought back to the factory. Looks like new now and has a few upgrades from what I remember. Was surprised at the asking price.

Good luck with it, they are very special cars.
Andy, can I ask how you are getting on with yours and what the owner experience is like? What is it like dealing with the factory and do you have any tips for prospective owners?

andy74b

833 posts

253 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Streetrod said:
andy74b said:
Streetrod said:
munch997 said:
Blue RHD zonda S coupe in parklane showroom, official opening is next saturday i think, with Mr.Pagani coming over. Shoebags CCR and the zonda have been joined by a BF Performance Murcielago.
I spoke to the head of sales at the factory this morning. He informed me that the Park Lane car is owned by the factory and is for sale. He is going to email me across the information this afternoon.
I looked at this car at the factory. Car was out in the far east and brought back to the factory. Looks like new now and has a few upgrades from what I remember. Was surprised at the asking price.

Good luck with it, they are very special cars.
Andy, can I ask how you are getting on with yours and what the owner experience is like? What is it like dealing with the factory and do you have any tips for prospective owners?
Pm me.

jerwatt

25,656 posts

227 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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Just wondering, does the main guy's name who deals with begin with an A (just wondering if he's still there)?

We're up to around 113 cars made, so it's likely there will only be 120 or so made (up to 2 more Tricolore, 2 more special editions to the UK, the last Cinque Roadster which will be yellow is still to be released, all the other 4 have been sold). I think there is still one more F Roadster missing (if they go for the 25 total). I think they'll go up in value in the long term. Except for the 'Segg (which seems to be having problems keeping the value on second hand cars) they are the most limited out of current hypercars, and generally loved by most people. The C9 project will have greater production numbers and will have a different type of engine.

BLUENSX

21 posts

211 months

Tuesday 16th March 2010
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andy74b
I am sure loads of "Piston Heads" would love to hear of your experiences with your Pagani - hopefully all good.

Can you give an indication on the asking price of the Zonda in Park Lane ??



Edited by BLUENSX on Tuesday 16th March 13:54

ilovevolvo

1,832 posts

250 months

Thursday 18th March 2010
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Come on Andy spill the beans on whats been done now to your car and also some pics please cool

Pork

9,455 posts

260 months

Thursday 18th March 2010
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BLUENSX said:
andy74b
I am sure loads of "Piston Heads" would love to hear of your experiences with your Pagani - hopefully all good.

Can you give an indication on the asking price of the Zonda in Park Lane ??
I agree, but unfortunately the way PH has been of lat, I can imagine it would only be a matter of minutes before someone comes on here asking for the 'custard test'

jonny5

3,526 posts

300 months

Thursday 18th March 2010
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if it's the same blue zonda I heard about, I think they wanted something like e600k for it ...

I don't think the Hartley blue Zonda is for sale . It sold a while back at 365k iirc

BLUENSX

21 posts

211 months

Thursday 18th March 2010
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Pork said:
BLUENSX said:
andy74b
I am sure loads of "Piston Heads" would love to hear of your experiences with your Pagani - hopefully all good.

Can you give an indication on the asking price of the Zonda in Park Lane ??
I agree, but unfortunately the way PH has been of lat, I can imagine it would only be a matter of minutes before someone comes on here asking for the 'custard test'
J'ai pas vraiment compris. Pourriez-vous redire en francais s'il vous plait?

Pork

9,455 posts

260 months

Thursday 18th March 2010
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BLUENSX said:
Pork said:
BLUENSX said:
andy74b
I am sure loads of "Piston Heads" would love to hear of your experiences with your Pagani - hopefully all good.

Can you give an indication on the asking price of the Zonda in Park Lane ??
I agree, but unfortunately the way PH has been of lat, I can imagine it would only be a matter of minutes before someone comes on here asking for the 'custard test'
J'ai pas vraiment compris. Pourriez-vous redire en francais s'il vous plait?
Soon as someone shares something of interest, they get asked to prove they're telling the truth by taking a pic of the car with a tin of Custard.


andy74b

833 posts

253 months

Friday 19th March 2010
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Pork said:
BLUENSX said:
andy74b
I am sure loads of "Piston Heads" would love to hear of your experiences with your Pagani - hopefully all good.

Can you give an indication on the asking price of the Zonda in Park Lane ??
I agree, but unfortunately the way PH has been of lat, I can imagine it would only be a matter of minutes before someone comes on here asking for the 'custard test'
Hate custard so none in house, no way i could do the test.

My experience of Pagani are still very brief. I bought my car back in September last year and then took the car back to the factory for a service and check over. That was in October last year and car only arrived back this week. The car is very special as I have said before but the service and customer car side doesn't seem to come close to other manufacturers. Maybe it's because I questioned some of their pricing ie wheel refurb 3500euros compared to same job in UK at £800 etc. I get impression they used to customers with mega money just agreeing to anything they say. My car has come back and is now waiting for further parts I asked for back in October of last year, these are promised next week. I will update the thread once these arrive and other issues with Pagani are resolved.

So at the moment my experiences are frustrating at best......



Edited by andy74b on Friday 19th March 19:40