230mph Gallardo crash
230mph Gallardo crash
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Peter101

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1,594 posts

236 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Twin turbo Gallardo SL at the Texas mile, the driver walked away.

Scary





Edited by Peter101 on Tuesday 26th October 12:40

AMD87

2,004 posts

233 months

Mario149

7,789 posts

209 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Not trying to downplay the severity of what happened, but given that the car had only been accelerating for 25 secs, and the parachute is open for a couple of secs before the crash, was it really at 200mph+?

Conian

8,030 posts

232 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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in 25 secs he'd covered a mile and was pretty much at full speed

the chute will have slowed him a lot though but still a massive crash

AMD87

2,004 posts

233 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Mario149 said:
Not trying to downplay the severity of what happened, but given that the car had only been accelerating for 25 secs, and the parachute is open for a couple of secs before the crash, was it really at 200mph+?
It was a twin turbo,went through the mile mark at 235mph

Mario149

7,789 posts

209 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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AMD87 said:
Mario149 said:
Not trying to downplay the severity of what happened, but given that the car had only been accelerating for 25 secs, and the parachute is open for a couple of secs before the crash, was it really at 200mph+?
It was a twin turbo,went through the mile mark at 235mph
furry muff smile

al1991

4,552 posts

211 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Makes me think cars like this are serious enough, and shouldn't be meddled with.

ferrari spider

1,107 posts

205 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Mario149 said:
but given that the car had only been accelerating for 25 secs,
Clearly you sound like a man who has never stomped on your 355 loud pedal for 25 seconds. Get ya self along to a Vmax son wink Your own 355 will exceed 160mph and still be pulling. Your own 0-100 time is approx 10 seconds, and you will have another 15 seconds left on the clock.
My Hayabusa will be hitting near 200mph in less tan 25 seconds, so imagine what that Gallardo can/did do. Yep 25 seconds is a long time in he world of speed/performance.

Edited by ferrari spider on Tuesday 26th October 15:38

Peter101

Original Poster:

1,594 posts

236 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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This gives you an idea of what that car was capable of, same driver that later crashed the car I believe. Skip to about 1 min in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Afh9gsV9tV4

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Obviously the parachute was NOT a good idea!

Streetrod

6,484 posts

237 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Some people have speculated that the accident was caused by an adverse gust of wind that caught the chute and dragged the car over. I have another theory:

First the car was having brake problems that are seen in the second video when the car skidded out of control when slowing down; apparently this was due to some new grabby ceramic brakes.

Secondly the Gallardo has a very short wheelbase and was never designed to go 250mph. On previous runs he had reported instability whilst slowing down. This is too be expected as the aero balance of the car will shift markedly forward at these speeds once you come off the brakes so losing traction at the rear. Thats why the Veyron and McLaren F1 had air brakes.

Add to the fact he was using a too big a drag chute on a short tether designed for a long wheel based drag racing car which would have made the situation worse.

When the chute deploys it not only pulls back but up as well so lifting the rear wheels and pulling the car out of control.

What he should have used was a land speed record spec chute with a very long tether and smaller round canopy. This would have provided a much more stable and softer retardation to the car.

Also when using one of these chutes you have to be on full throttle when they deploy so that you pull the car straight. If not the chute can pull the car in all sorts of strange ways, again leading to an accident.

Ok I know this is all speculation but is based on years of drag racing exp and what I saw in that video

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Streetrod said:
Some people have speculated that the accident was caused by an adverse gust of wind that caught the chute and dragged the car over. I have another theory:

First the car was having brake problems that are seen in the second video when the car skidded out of control when slowing down; apparently this was due to some new grabby ceramic brakes.

Secondly the Gallardo has a very short wheelbase and was never designed to go 250mph. On previous runs he had reported instability whilst slowing down. This is too be expected as the aero balance of the car will shift markedly forward at these speeds once you come off the brakes so losing traction at the rear. Thats why the Veyron and McLaren F1 had air brakes.

Add to the fact he was using a too big a drag chute on a short tether designed for a long wheel based drag racing car which would have made the situation worse.

When the chute deploys it not only pulls back but up as well so lifting the rear wheels and pulling the car out of control.

What he should have used was a land speed record spec chute with a very long tether and smaller round canopy. This would have provided a much more stable and softer retardation to the car.

Also when using one of these chutes you have to be on full throttle when they deploy so that you pull the car straight. If not the chute can pull the car in all sorts of strange ways, again leading to an accident.

Ok I know this is all speculation but is based on years of drag racing exp and what I saw in that video
I was thinking this when i watched the video. Seems a very shor line for it. It would be like lifting the back end up a bit and wibbling it around...

Also the video says 'It was making just shy of 2000rwh' that car was making just shy of 2000 hp at the wheels...really??....

Either way, one very fast machine and one lucky bloke!

SAB888

4,305 posts

238 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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There's one of these twin turbo Gallardos in the UK. They are supposed to have over 1000 horse power, 2000 seems way too high. The UK car was apparently above 1050hp.

Streetrod

6,484 posts

237 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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SAB888 said:
There's one of these twin turbo Gallardos in the UK. They are supposed to have over 1000 horse power, 2000 seems way too high. The UK car was apparently above 1050hp.
This one you mean thumbup










SAB888

4,305 posts

238 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Streetrod said:
SAB888 said:
There's one of these twin turbo Gallardos in the UK. They are supposed to have over 1000 horse power, 2000 seems way too high. The UK car was apparently above 1050hp.
This one you mean thumbup









Yep, that's the one. Do you know the owner?

Roop

6,018 posts

315 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Streetrod said:
No intercooling...? Imagine the heat soak...! I expect it doesn't produce power for very long. To be fair, I can't see where you'd put the intercooler other than on the roof RS200 Evo style...

KTR

362 posts

201 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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It's running a charge cooler. That's what the polished box is with the blow off valves on it.

Edited by KTR on Tuesday 26th October 20:43

cptsideways

13,895 posts

283 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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Roop said:
Streetrod said:
No intercooling...? Imagine the heat soak...! I expect it doesn't produce power for very long. To be fair, I can't see where you'd put the intercooler other than on the roof RS200 Evo style...
The big silver box is a chargecooler I think you'll find

Roop

6,018 posts

315 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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OK. I got it hehe

Roop

6,018 posts

315 months

Tuesday 26th October 2010
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I thought it was some kind of airbox. Chargecooler makes sense given the limited space - Shove another rad up front I guess...?