Question for GuyR
Discussion
We haven't met, but saw your car going well at Vmax VII.
I was just wondering, looking at the results and that, whether you thought you could get the 'other' 4mph out of the car and crack a genuine 200mph at the venue?
Apologies if you already have. If not I though you must be gunning for it. I'm sure the car could do it with a longer straight, but what would you need to change to do it there?
Cheers
Sam
I was just wondering, looking at the results and that, whether you thought you could get the 'other' 4mph out of the car and crack a genuine 200mph at the venue?
Apologies if you already have. If not I though you must be gunning for it. I'm sure the car could do it with a longer straight, but what would you need to change to do it there?
Cheers
Sam
SAM
Guy's car and the red Ruf are both capable of hitting 200mph at the venue, if we had the whole length of the track to play with. Indeed both cars could crack 200mph if there were a decent tailwind which we had on one of the ealier VMAxs where my car hit 192 (180 last sunday).
(Technical note: Both cars have the same 6th gear ratio of the porsche turbo which at 6,000 revs is doing about 180mph. The turbo's from the factory have an electronic cut out at 6,700. The Ruf vehicles have their cut out set at 7,100.)
DAZ
BTW - Nice GT3, I must ask for a passenegr run next time. I've got to try and understand why all the GT3 drivers on the forum think turbos are boring.
Guy's car and the red Ruf are both capable of hitting 200mph at the venue, if we had the whole length of the track to play with. Indeed both cars could crack 200mph if there were a decent tailwind which we had on one of the ealier VMAxs where my car hit 192 (180 last sunday).
(Technical note: Both cars have the same 6th gear ratio of the porsche turbo which at 6,000 revs is doing about 180mph. The turbo's from the factory have an electronic cut out at 6,700. The Ruf vehicles have their cut out set at 7,100.)
DAZ
BTW - Nice GT3, I must ask for a passenegr run next time. I've got to try and understand why all the GT3 drivers on the forum think turbos are boring.
Daz,
Thanks for the reply. Do we know if both the cars are (Rturbo/RGT2) are similarly powered?
Your welcome to a ride next time. I don't quite understand anyone who would call a 911TT 'boring'; having said that... i've never driven one. I suspect the turbo's suspension is slightly more compliant, and the experience is a little more 'civilised.'
Went for the GT3 because I wanted the NA, motorsport scream and something a bit different from the last two (turbo) cars I've had. My brother bought a CSL and I fell in love with its noise and the engine's high revving characteristics. To me the GT3 has that and then some (not much mind- don't want to start another GT3/CSL slanging match!). The purity of soundtrack was something the Noble (and the S3!) palpably lack.
Sam
Thanks for the reply. Do we know if both the cars are (Rturbo/RGT2) are similarly powered?
dazren said:
I've got to try and understand why all the GT3 drivers on the forum think turbos are boring.
Your welcome to a ride next time. I don't quite understand anyone who would call a 911TT 'boring'; having said that... i've never driven one. I suspect the turbo's suspension is slightly more compliant, and the experience is a little more 'civilised.'
Went for the GT3 because I wanted the NA, motorsport scream and something a bit different from the last two (turbo) cars I've had. My brother bought a CSL and I fell in love with its noise and the engine's high revving characteristics. To me the GT3 has that and then some (not much mind- don't want to start another GT3/CSL slanging match!). The purity of soundtrack was something the Noble (and the S3!) palpably lack.
Sam
Adams red car is officially 550bhp, as mine was also before the recent upgrade. With Ruf their quoted numbers are the absolute minimum.
My car has just had the Nardo engine fitted, which is rated at 590bhp by Ruf. Mine dynoed on their engine dyno at 620bhp.
As for 200mph, it has done it easily on the autobahn when test-driven by Ruf. It hits the rev-limiter at 206mph on GPS. If I had the longer 6th gear it would reach about 215-220mph (the Ruf Nardo demo car has done 223mph on GPS).
As Daz said to do it at Brunters requires the whole straight, big balls and a favourable wind.
There are things you can do to the cars to make it easier (remove wipers, tape joints etc) but when I do it, I want to know I've done it in 100% road trim.
Guy
>> Edited by GuyR on Sunday 27th March 08:45
Andy,
I asked Mr Lieb the morning after he took Guy's car out and he said it slammed into the limiter...
I supposedly did 200mph a couple of Vmaxs ago, this was with a GPS unit, when i stopped i was 50m from the bank,
Im sure if i did it though, the r turbo isnt accelerating fast enough imho, i think guys car could crack 200mph through the beams if we get a tail wind.
9ff cars need rebuilds after a couple thousand kilometres. There is a chap here in germany who has the same engine as Guy, and it has done 110k km so far...
all the best
adam
I asked Mr Lieb the morning after he took Guy's car out and he said it slammed into the limiter...
I supposedly did 200mph a couple of Vmaxs ago, this was with a GPS unit, when i stopped i was 50m from the bank,
Im sure if i did it though, the r turbo isnt accelerating fast enough imho, i think guys car could crack 200mph through the beams if we get a tail wind.
9ff cars need rebuilds after a couple thousand kilometres. There is a chap here in germany who has the same engine as Guy, and it has done 110k km so far...
all the best
adam
I hit a speedo 200mph in the Skyline on the autobahn, but doubt it was a true 200mph. That engine lasted 5 weeks before it blew-up.
The Nardo engine has the same warranty as every other Ruf engine. It's expensive because it's built for reliability. It has a full strip and rebuild and many new parts inside, including titanium conrods.
Thanks for the replies Guys.
I suppose the most impressive thing about the Ruf package is not in itself the monster outputs, but the mechanical integrity with which it is done - and from a 3.6 engine.
Can I mail you guys off line to ask about prices? None seem to be forthcoming on the web.
Thanks again.
Sam
I suppose the most impressive thing about the Ruf package is not in itself the monster outputs, but the mechanical integrity with which it is done - and from a 3.6 engine.
Can I mail you guys off line to ask about prices? None seem to be forthcoming on the web.
Thanks again.
Sam
Sam i mailed Ruf directly asking about there various upgrade packages. they replied very promptly with all the options and costs and also answered various questions i had.I have since deleted it all by mistake so can't forward on to you.
Thinking of going this way myself later in the year.
Rob
Thinking of going this way myself later in the year.
Rob
Ruf prices are as follows:
The 550bhp engine upgrade is circa £20k on a 996TT, but only £16k on an X50 equipped car (ie 450bhp powerkit) or a GT2.
The 590bhp engine upgrade (aka Nardo ie mine) is circa £41,000.
The reason for the huge difference is that the 550bhp is bolt-on parts, whereas the 590bhp is a full strip and rebuild with new internals.
Guy
The 550bhp engine upgrade is circa £20k on a 996TT, but only £16k on an X50 equipped car (ie 450bhp powerkit) or a GT2.
The 590bhp engine upgrade (aka Nardo ie mine) is circa £41,000.
The reason for the huge difference is that the 550bhp is bolt-on parts, whereas the 590bhp is a full strip and rebuild with new internals.
Guy
Thanks for the info. Interesting the disparity between the 550bhp & Nardo prices. I will mail Ruf later.
What are you considering Rods? A full car or a conversion?
Also anyone know the final rough OTR cost of an 550hp/590hp factory RTurbo?
It seems like Vmax is a rolling showcase for Ruf!
Roll up roll up... see the world famous Yellowbird! Featuring the Nardo R-GT2 and Rturbo all ably supported by their Italian co star, the murcielago.
Thanks
Sam
What are you considering Rods? A full car or a conversion?
Also anyone know the final rough OTR cost of an 550hp/590hp factory RTurbo?
It seems like Vmax is a rolling showcase for Ruf!
Roll up roll up... see the world famous Yellowbird! Featuring the Nardo R-GT2 and Rturbo all ably supported by their Italian co star, the murcielago.
Thanks
Sam
They have started making the RT12 now based on the 997, although I guess they would make a 996 based RTurbo if you wanted.
Basic 520bhp RT12 = £155k
560bhp = £6k extra
650bhp engine = £32k extra
4wd = £10k extra
Integrated roll cage (IRC) = £15k extra
So a 4wd, 650bhp RT12 = £197k
With IRC it's about £210k.
The prices in euros are very similar to those for the 996 based RTurbo. Problem is the euro is a lot stronger than it was 2-3 yrs ago.
Guy
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