Wiring Additional Full Beam & Side Lights
Discussion
I have purchased these Ring - Angel Eyes Driving Lamp which have these Wiring instructions for the supplied loom.
Do I really neeed to use the supplied loom or can I just wire the lights directly to the relevant wires going into the full beam and side lights?
Is the only purpose of the supplied loom (and relay) so that the supplied switch works? As the car already has a switch for the various lights (like all do!), do I really need this additional switch (for starters, I have no idea what S, ON, and D stand for :S)?
Do I really neeed to use the supplied loom or can I just wire the lights directly to the relevant wires going into the full beam and side lights?
Is the only purpose of the supplied loom (and relay) so that the supplied switch works? As the car already has a switch for the various lights (like all do!), do I really need this additional switch (for starters, I have no idea what S, ON, and D stand for :S)?
Edited by EViS on Monday 23 January 11:33
That depends on how thick the origial wiring is and if it can withstand twice the current being drawn down it. Modern cars on the whole have wiring that is good enough for the standard lamps, but I would not ask much more. You would also need to use a much bigger fuse on the high beam as its now supplying 4 lamps. If the wires are too small they get hot and the voltage drops to the lamps, so you end up with 4 dim lights instead of two bright ones. Id stick to adding the extra "ring" loom to be on the safe side.
That's a good point. However, where the wiring diagram tells me to "connect to the sidelight circuit" and "connect to the main beam circuit". At what point should I tap into these circuits? Can I connect into the wires just behind the lights? I am unsure going by that diagram if connecting to these two circuits draws power from them or whether it's only for the relay to know when the sidelights and full beams have been turned on?
Edited by EViS on Monday 23 January 13:40
EViS said:
That's a good point. However, where the wiring diagram tells me to "connect to the sidelight circuit" and "connect to the main beam circuit". At what point should I tap into these circuits? Can I connect into the wires just behind the lights? I am unsure going by that diagram if connecting to these two circuits draws power from them or whether it's only for the relay to know when the sidelights and full beams have been turned on?
Dito what OP said,and just use the existing main beam feed (tap in at headlight conector if thats easy) to opperate the relay coil, and then a fused feed from the battery for the load ie your new lights via the relay's contacts asuming you have driving lights and you want them only to opperate when you use main beam ... Edited by EViS on Monday 23 January 13:40
Edited by powerstroke on Monday 23 January 15:08
Edited by powerstroke on Monday 23 January 15:10
powerstroke said:
Dito what OP said,and just use the existing main beam feed to opperate the relay coil, and a fused feed from the battery for the load ie your new lights via the relay's contacts asuming you have driving lights and you want them only to opperate when you use main beam ...
To confirm, yes I have driving lights and only want them activated when in full beam.When you say "use the existing main beam feed to opperate the relay coil", will this draw power from the main beam circuit (if I were to follow the instruction manual as per my opening post), and hence could cause problems as described by blitzracing's reply?
EViS said:
powerstroke said:
Dito what OP said,and just use the existing main beam feed to opperate the relay coil, and a fused feed from the battery for the load ie your new lights via the relay's contacts asuming you have driving lights and you want them only to opperate when you use main beam ...
To confirm, yes I have driving lights and only want them activated when in full beam.When you say "use the existing main beam feed to opperate the relay coil", will this draw power from the main beam circuit (if I were to follow the instruction manual as per my opening post), and hence could cause problems as described by blitzracing's reply?
powerstroke said:
Yes but its only a tiny amount to opperate the relay ,the extra lights get the power from the battery feed...
Just to put my mind at rest, are you assuming this or have you looked at the installation diagram linked to in my opening post?And based on that diagram, does it look like the 'angel' halo lights will automatically turn on with the side lights, but then turn off with the dipped beam? And that the driving lights will only turn on with the full beam? I don't really want to be using that switch to turn the lights on/off manually post installation.
Edited by EViS on Monday 23 January 16:14
Just to recap- you can use the main beam wire to drive a relay coil as already stated- this wont draw any significant current. As long as you then use some decent wire and a fuse through the relay switch from the battery, that should be fine. The spot lamps will only come on when the main beam is on, as this closes the relay contact so it takes its feed from the battery only when the main beam is on. If the side lights are used just to drive the LED's around the edge of the lamps the amount of extra load will be insignificant on the side light circuit, as LED's are very power efficient compared to filament lights, so draw very little current. It certainly wont burn out any wiring!
I used the supplied loom and got it all hooked up and working today. I have two concerns:
a) Due to the short length's of wire in the loom, I have had to position the relay 40 mm to the side of the radiator on the front wall of the car. Is this likely to cause any heat build up in the relay?
b) The relay is bolted on at an angle (as opposed to hanging horizontally), could this damage it in any way over time?
a) Due to the short length's of wire in the loom, I have had to position the relay 40 mm to the side of the radiator on the front wall of the car. Is this likely to cause any heat build up in the relay?
b) The relay is bolted on at an angle (as opposed to hanging horizontally), could this damage it in any way over time?
EViS said:
I used the supplied loom and got it all hooked up and working today. I have two concerns:
a) Due to the short length's of wire in the loom, I have had to position the relay 40 mm to the side of the radiator on the front wall of the car. Is this likely to cause any heat build up in the relay?
b) The relay is bolted on at an angle (as opposed to hanging horizontally), could this damage it in any way over time?
Nope & nopea) Due to the short length's of wire in the loom, I have had to position the relay 40 mm to the side of the radiator on the front wall of the car. Is this likely to cause any heat build up in the relay?
b) The relay is bolted on at an angle (as opposed to hanging horizontally), could this damage it in any way over time?
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