2001 Focus Engine "Sqeak "at Belt speed'ish when warming up.
2001 Focus Engine "Sqeak "at Belt speed'ish when warming up.
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cattman

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16 posts

170 months

Friday 6th December 2013
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Its a 67K mile lightly driven 1.6 Zetec.

The noise is a squeak while warming up, just started, which is almost tap like initially and is loudest by the O/S wheel arch.

The frequency is roughly the rotational periodicity of the aux belt. The aux belt itself looks good, not even cracked up. I just did the one on my SAAB 9000 Aero BTW. Have done a few, know what they look like end of life.

I have researched and found some threads which suggest this may be the aux tensioner pulley bearing. Its a bit low mileage but.....

- Do the symptoms fit the diagnosis/do these fail early?

- Any other suggestions?

Thanks,

ch427

11,946 posts

263 months

Saturday 7th December 2013
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Sounds like either the belt or tensioner, difficult to see if a belt is actually worn so best to take it off and examine it. You can see how the pulleys feel then too.

andyiley

13,496 posts

182 months

Saturday 7th December 2013
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Could just be that the belt has worn a bit shiny & squeaking as it "slips into place" on the pulley.

I have had this before, there is a simple way to check it. With a household hand spray, spray a little water onto the belt (carefully, so as not to also eliminate any noise from any bearings) and if it shuts up for a few seconds, problem diagnosed.

As indicated above you can do the same with the bearings, basically the more accurate the squirt, the more accurate the diagnosis.

If it is the belt, but it is otherwise in tip top condition, you can remove it & "rough up" the belt & pulley with a bit of emery/wet & dry to stop it long term,.

cattman

Original Poster:

16 posts

170 months

Saturday 7th December 2013
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Thanks. will try water on the belt. I may try WD 40 on the pulley but that means actually getting inside the wheel arch and cover off. Its not bad yet so I may not be back for a bit, but will make sure thread ends conclusively.http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/imgs/12.gif

andyiley

13,496 posts

182 months

Saturday 7th December 2013
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I wouldn't bother with WD 40 on the bearing, as it asn't a very good lubricant, it evaporates too quickly.

If you want to lubricate it, the best thing is a drop of engine oil, but it may not be too easy to get in.

That is why I keep my trusty old green squirty oil can, there is nothing better.

cattman

Original Poster:

16 posts

170 months

Saturday 7th December 2013
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Fish oil! I have a green oil can with bendy spout and mulitgrade oi...

cattman

Original Poster:

16 posts

170 months

Wednesday 11th December 2013
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Andy that was brilliant! And I have some value to add to it for others, probably useful on any such auxiliary belt problem.

First off I didn't believe any thing sounding so mechanically squeally could be only the belt. Squirted water at an exposed pulley, SILENCE!

Then thought about how to fix it. Rubbing the removed belt seemed a bit time consuming, so I got an old soft bristled suede brush, bit bigger than a tooth brush (Its softer bronze or whatever bristles than my hard wire brushes, which were also all too big. Put on a big gardening glove and gently held the brush against the moving belt grooves at idle. It didn't grab and in a couple of seconds the belt looked nice and clean black again - and had stopped squeaking altogether.

Job jobbed. Theory? Something a bit tacky got onto the inside of the belt?


andyiley

13,496 posts

182 months

Thursday 12th December 2013
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Glad to be of assistance & a quick easy fix is always welcome.

cattman

Original Poster:

16 posts

170 months

Tuesday 18th March 2014
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The squeak cam back. I will report when I get time on the car again. Another check is to wobble the pulleys apparently. Need a belt tensioner compressor or some such for that....