Is 100HP a lot?
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As per the other thread, the air filter probably gained nothing, and lost filtration. Generally not a good thing.
As for sound...I've never heard a nice diesel induction note yet with alternative air filters.
As for 100bhp vs 75bhp...that's more than a 25% increase. That is a large margin by any standards
But is 100bhp a lot ? certainly not, but that's a different matter entirely given the starting point.
As for sound...I've never heard a nice diesel induction note yet with alternative air filters.
As for 100bhp vs 75bhp...that's more than a 25% increase. That is a large margin by any standards
But is 100bhp a lot ? certainly not, but that's a different matter entirely given the starting point.
Mr2Mike said:
226bhp said:
Torque counts more than Bhp, especially from a diesel and you can't compare a diesel car with petrol on Bhp alone very well....
Don't be so daft. Would you rather have a 10bhp 1000lbft engine, or a 1000bhp 10lbft engine?You are comparing the BHP of a petrol engine with the BHP of a diesel as if it were relevant which is idiotic.
in a word, no,
100bhp used to be a laugh back in the days when a first car would be a mk2 fiesta an the likes. still not quick but when the car's 8-900kg it can prove to be a fun experience when outright pace isn;t considered,
with a diesel polo i'd say save your cash, what you spend in mods is not going to be worth it. this is before we get onto declaring all to you insurers…
imo, not worth it. i imagine you're young so standard advice is don't crash and put the cash towards something you'll enjoy once your premiums come down.
100bhp used to be a laugh back in the days when a first car would be a mk2 fiesta an the likes. still not quick but when the car's 8-900kg it can prove to be a fun experience when outright pace isn;t considered,
with a diesel polo i'd say save your cash, what you spend in mods is not going to be worth it. this is before we get onto declaring all to you insurers…
imo, not worth it. i imagine you're young so standard advice is don't crash and put the cash towards something you'll enjoy once your premiums come down.
Edited by shirt on Tuesday 30th December 12:31
226bhp said:
That's a stupid question as neither is physically possible from an internal combustion engine and I wouldn't want to have either if it were possible anyhow.
You are comparing the BHP of a petrol engine with the BHP of a diesel as if it were relevant which is idiotic.
BHP is BHP whatever it comes from. Suggesting that torque is somehow more important than power demonstrates a lack of knowledge, and your response suggests you know this.You are comparing the BHP of a petrol engine with the BHP of a diesel as if it were relevant which is idiotic.
226bhp said:
Torque counts more than Bhp, especially from a diesel and you can't compare a diesel car with petrol on Bhp alone very well....
The only thing that makes any vehicle go fast is bhp. Acceleration is directly proportional to it. All that torque affects is the required gearing.226bhp said:
Mr2Mike said:
226bhp said:
Torque counts more than Bhp, especially from a diesel and you can't compare a diesel car with petrol on Bhp alone very well....
Don't be so daft. Would you rather have a 10bhp 1000lbft engine, or a 1000bhp 10lbft engine?You are comparing the BHP of a petrol engine with the BHP of a diesel as if it were relevant which is idiotic.
Pumaracing said:
Perhaps if we said would you rather have a 500 bhp 400 ft lb engine or a 400 bhp 500 ft lb engine it might be more sensible. The answer should be obvious. Why you think bhp from petrol engines and diesel ones is different is less obvious. Each represents the same 33,000 ft lbs per minute and the identical capacity to do work.
As a daily driver in mixed road conditions would the 400bhp/500ft/lb be better on fuel?Edited by 226bhp on Tuesday 30th December 15:18
Bhp sells engines torque wins races
The OP has 74 bhp and could get 110bhp that is a significant increase over standard +50% of 74 is 37bhp which is 111bhp
It's all relative I have 3 Pinto engines for my kit car 100bhp, 130bhp and 170bhp
The difference between 100 & 130 is noticeable and that's just 30%
With a tdo the biggest increase will be a remap that increases boost
The OP has 74 bhp and could get 110bhp that is a significant increase over standard +50% of 74 is 37bhp which is 111bhp
It's all relative I have 3 Pinto engines for my kit car 100bhp, 130bhp and 170bhp
The difference between 100 & 130 is noticeable and that's just 30%
With a tdo the biggest increase will be a remap that increases boost
Is there a reason you want more power in a Polo? I understand where you are coming from, my first car was a 1.2ltr 8V Renault Clio and I wanted to make that as fast as possible.
Best advice - don't worry about spending money and extracting some additional ponies. Yes, it will make it faster but it will still be sluggish. IMO find a car with the power you are looking for and that you can realistically aim for in terms of cost and insurance and aim to purchase that in 6 months / 1 year / 2 years etc.
You can quickly spend a small fortune of gaining minimal power gains, when it would be far more efficient to sell and buy something more powerful to start with.
Best advice - don't worry about spending money and extracting some additional ponies. Yes, it will make it faster but it will still be sluggish. IMO find a car with the power you are looking for and that you can realistically aim for in terms of cost and insurance and aim to purchase that in 6 months / 1 year / 2 years etc.
You can quickly spend a small fortune of gaining minimal power gains, when it would be far more efficient to sell and buy something more powerful to start with.
can you even get them remapped? even then it's like £300?
I had a 90hp MK3 Golf and looked into it breifly but a remap requires changine the chip in the ECU so that it can be mapped
On my V70 I've got a Ronbox tuning module thing, £144, reads MAF an increases fuelling to suit. plus you can adjust how much extra you want from it.
Mine's about 175 up from 140 with stainless 2.5" straight through exhaust (DIY, pretty expensive if you're buying one) and that. needs more boost now.
25% increase yes you'll notice it. Is it fast, no not really, as said.
But it should be fun enough, and enough for average overtakes.
I had a 90hp MK3 Golf and looked into it breifly but a remap requires changine the chip in the ECU so that it can be mapped
On my V70 I've got a Ronbox tuning module thing, £144, reads MAF an increases fuelling to suit. plus you can adjust how much extra you want from it.
Mine's about 175 up from 140 with stainless 2.5" straight through exhaust (DIY, pretty expensive if you're buying one) and that. needs more boost now.
25% increase yes you'll notice it. Is it fast, no not really, as said.
But it should be fun enough, and enough for average overtakes.
Turbo engines often see decent increases from a remap purely as they remove some of the safety margin there from the manufacturer.
I'd be more interested in the torque increase with the diesel than to BHP increase.
Often chip companies show a 20 or 30 bhp increase, especially in NA petrol engines, when all they have actually done is increase the rev ceiling a few 100 rpm. Fine of its for pissing rights in the pub loo, but in the real world you rarely rev any engine to the limiter in daily driving. Whereas a big increase in torque would be immediately noticeable in acceleration.
I'd be more interested in the torque increase with the diesel than to BHP increase.
Often chip companies show a 20 or 30 bhp increase, especially in NA petrol engines, when all they have actually done is increase the rev ceiling a few 100 rpm. Fine of its for pissing rights in the pub loo, but in the real world you rarely rev any engine to the limiter in daily driving. Whereas a big increase in torque would be immediately noticeable in acceleration.
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