Anyone believe what the dealership are telling me

[VetteG]

A couple of weeks ago my Skoda Yeti 1.8TSI (5 years old 55000miles) developed a misfire and the engine management light came on. I put it into the Skoda main dealer that I have been using and they came back to me. They say that the sealant on the cam cover had failed around the spark plug recesses allowing oil to get into the recesses (and this is the bit I find difficult to believe) the oil has then managed to seep in through the threads of the plugs oiling them up. To correct this they want to do a full top end rebuild at a cost to me of £1300!

To me if the oil can get passed the plugs it would be ejected pretty quickly on the compression and firing stroke splattering oil over the engine bay. There is none of that.


I have also posted this in the AUdi VW Skoda section.

G

[Pumaracing]

Of course it's nonsense. I'd try and get it in writing and then send it to the manufacturer's head office to let them know what sort of idiots are working at their dealerships.

[MKnight702]

If it is fouled plugs why do they need to rebuild the top end? Surely a new gasket and plugs should sorth the problem?

[VetteG]

Already reported to Skoda, who went back to the dealership to find that they are sticking to their guns and offering to send images to Skoda. I have asked Skoda guy to confirm this with their engineering experts, but to me it just beggars belief that its going that far!

G

[stevieturbo]

Yes cam cover gaskets can fail, yes they can leak oil into the recess, yes this can surround the plugs/leads/coils and cause missfires.

But no that oil cannot get into the chamber and spark plug top, other than when they remove the plugs and the oil runs down past and into the chamber when the plug is removed.

Replace cam cover gasket, ensure no leaks, replace plugs, clean oil away etc and go on your merry way

[VetteG]

That's exactly my position Stevie, however there is the addition that I have been complaining about high oil consumption for the past 2 years, about 1 litre per 1000miles, but its Skoda's position that its not excessive until it reaches 1 litre every 600 miles!!! I'm worried that if Skoda stick by their dealer I will have a big billonly to find down the line that the real cause is broken rings!

G

[Pumaracing]

Clean up the plugs, sell the car, buy another make of car. Simples.

[phumy]

Pumaracing said:

Clean up the plugs, sell the car, buy another make of car. Simples.

^^^^^ this very much

[bungz]

No way would I keep a car that would lunch through that amount of oil.

Whats the service routine on these? 15-20k?

So inbetween services the car actually uses several times the oil of a full service.

That's unreal.

Also the dealer is on the rob.

[VetteG]

Right just had it explained to me, apparently the cam cover is integral with the camshaft bearings so to remove the camshaft cover the timing chain etc. has to be removed. Its making more sense now, but still expensive!

G

[PositronicRay]

High oil consumption on VAG FSI engines is well documented. I believe Audi and VW (not sure about Skoda) are offering fixes if you complain high enough and have full VAG history. Some law suits in America have prompted this.

[stevieturbo]

VetteG said:

That's exactly my position Stevie, however there is the addition that I have been complaining about high oil consumption for the past 2 years, about 1 litre per 1000miles, but its Skoda's position that its not excessive until it reaches 1 litre every 600 miles!!! I'm worried that if Skoda stick by their dealer I will have a big billonly to find down the line that the real cause is broken rings!

G

Do a search, the TSI etc engines are well known for consuming huge amounts of oil...with VW etc always trying to fob off the owners saying it's normal.

Sell the car, too many modern VW's are ste.

[neiljohnson]

VetteG said:

Right just had it explained to me, apparently the cam cover is integral with the camshaft bearings so to remove the camshaft cover the timing chain etc. has to be removed. Its making more sense now, but still expensive!

G

While this is true & does make it quite a lot of work to do the cam cover gasket there is still no way for the oil to seep past the plugs!!

[mighty kitten]

Based on what I've seen on these motors the price will include a new timing chain kit and a few hours to dig all the coal out of the cylinder head ports .