Are gopping grilles necessary?
Are gopping grilles necessary?
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AW111

Original Poster:

9,674 posts

157 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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One of the modern design trends that leaves me cold is the enormous front grille.

Here is a high powered 90's GT :

|https://thumbsnap.com/5Mdj3yy9[/url]
See also Mercedes v8's from the same era.

So is there any engineering reason for the huge grilles on modern cars, or is it just an unimaginative way to fill in the gap between the bumper and the impact-freindly raised bonnet?

otolith

65,650 posts

228 months

Monday 30th October 2017
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They didn't make *that* much power, though, by modern standards.

I suspect that more of an issue is the need to feed air to intercoolers now that everything is forced induction. Plenty of grille area on highly turbocharged rally reps from the era you're talking about and before.


HardtopManual

2,840 posts

190 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
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It's part of the design trend towards aggressive, rather than beautiful, cars. It's what Joe Public wants, apparently.

G600

1,479 posts

211 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
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Just for show, jalopnik photoshopped cars to show how much of the grille actually let's air through.
https://jalopnik.com/cars-without-fake-grilles-181...

stevieturbo

17,978 posts

271 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
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Where is the enormous front grill in that pic ?

It looks small.

AW111

Original Poster:

9,674 posts

157 months

Saturday 4th November 2017
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G600 said:
Just for show, jalopnik photoshopped cars to show how much of the grille actually let's air through.
https://jalopnik.com/cars-without-fake-grilles-181...
Very interesting, thanks.

E-bmw

12,407 posts

176 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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stevieturbo said:
Where is the enormous front grill in that pic ?

It looks small.
That was exactly his point it wasn't but they now are.

PositronicRay

28,662 posts

207 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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AW111 said:
G600 said:
Just for show, jalopnik photoshopped cars to show how much of the grille actually let's air through.
https://jalopnik.com/cars-without-fake-grilles-181...
Very interesting, thanks.
Tis interesting, I would have thought crap grills wouldn't help aerodynamics either. Form over function?

stevieturbo

17,978 posts

271 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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E-bmw said:
That was exactly his point it wasn't but they now are.
They are ? Any particular car ?

It's not like we're all driving Rolls Royce's with huge grills.

RDMcG

20,554 posts

231 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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New safety rules for pedestrians dictate a much blunter front end with more space over the engine that is crushable I believe. Not the case for mid or rear engined cars which therefore retain sleeker fronts.

227bhp

10,203 posts

152 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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The first two which sprang to mind were 'New Mercedes' (any) and Ford Sierra.







I agree, it's down to having more rads to cool, more power & efficiency (for engine zize), apart from the obvious one you've now got oil cooler, intercooler, air-con, power steering, fuel coolers as standard on many cars now.

All cars have undertrays which they never used to have, so the air is drawn back out of the engine bay under the car to help the aerodynamics.

mike74

3,687 posts

156 months

Sunday 5th November 2017
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With all the current nonsense in the news about so called sexual harassment I actually read the thread title as ''groping girlies''