Skoda re mapping
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Skoda25

Original Poster:

5 posts

94 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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Hi I’m new to this I was toying with the idea to get my fabia 1.6 tdi re mapped, I was just wondering if anyone else has done this to theirs and what were the results after?

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

308 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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What are you hoping to achieve?

Skoda25

Original Poster:

5 posts

94 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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I have never re mapped a car I just wondering what the difference with the power and acceleration etc, I have also read about better mpg is that true with the increased torque? Would like the extra power and mpg just wanted to know if it’s worth it for the price cheers!

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

308 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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An off-the-shelf aftermarket map will be something thrown together by somebody with totally unknown qualifications, and sold to you by somebody who probably has no idea what they're selling. A custom map will cost more and represent what some tuning specialist could come up with in an hour or so of trial and error. There's no reason to expect either of these to work better for a standard engine than the map the manufacturer will already have spent millions fine-tuning. Do you seriously think the manufacturer will have missed any opportunity for significant power or economy improvements?

Skoda25

Original Poster:

5 posts

94 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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Yeah I’m quite sceptical about it just wondered as a lot of people swear by them and when I typed my reg in it come up with about 40% increase in bhp and torque on the tdi and included is the car being on a dyno before and after but I didn’t want to do any damage to my engine in the long run

Kccv23highliftcam

1,783 posts

99 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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I had a "tuning box" fitted and set up on a RR.1.9 110 PD [which was actually 119.5] went to 142 and a mountain of toque. Made the car, on boost, totally undergeared..

Made a hell of a difference. Performance in roll on in 5th was immense.

MPG went up.

I also went through 3 cats and eventually a cracked head with loss of coolant.

Depends what you want. At the time it was ace.

Now, I'd save my pennies and restore a really fast car [that corners] and for daily use be as incognito as possible.

HughG

3,714 posts

265 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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I had a previous car remapped, went from 140 to 187hp. Had a custom map done on the rolling road as I didn’t like the idea of just loading a remap.
Mpg improved on the on board computer but not when worked out at the pump.
No issues with reliability, was still on its original clutch at 140k but I never used the power from a standing start.
Mid range for overtaking was great.
I have the same engine in both current cars and haven’t repeated it.

stevieturbo

17,970 posts

271 months

Saturday 2nd June 2018
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GreenV8S said:
Do you seriously think the manufacturer will have missed any opportunity for significant power or economy improvements?
When tied with emissions BS and all other sorts of nonsense. Yes.

But the quality of the remap is what it will all boil down to. Somewhere there may be compromises...long term reliability may be one. But tens of thousands of cars get remapped all the time, often by clueless muppets flashing in any old crap they've pilfered online and I guess most users are happy.

But IMO if it's just a daily driver, you want it to be reliable, no issues etc etc...just leave it alone. If you want something faster, buy something faster.

If you really must go down the re-map route....ask around and get trusted opinions of reviews of whoever you intend to use. And an they put your car back to exactly the way it was before if things dont work out ?

Simple answer is NO they cannot. They might just load another generic map, but they can never restore the car to exactly what it left the factory with.

packman10_4

245 posts

218 months

Monday 4th June 2018
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Good results in torque and drivability ....

Use Pendal for all diesel remaps .... they map the whole system from scratch not just download a generic map ...

Steve H

6,915 posts

219 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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GreenV8S said:
An off-the-shelf aftermarket map will be something thrown together by somebody with totally unknown qualifications, and sold to you by somebody who probably has no idea what they're selling. A custom map will cost more and represent what some tuning specialist could come up with in an hour or so of trial and error. There's no reason to expect either of these to work better for a standard engine than the map the manufacturer will already have spent millions fine-tuning. Do you seriously think the manufacturer will have missed any opportunity for significant power or economy improvements?
Even by internet standards this is utter rubbish eek.

thebraketester

15,553 posts

162 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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packman10_4 said:
Good results in torque and drivability ....

Use Pendal for all diesel remaps .... they map the whole system from scratch not just download a generic map ...
I would touch a company that remaps so many brands with a barge pole

mazzamark

27 posts

94 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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Ive used Angel tuning twice for 2 Fabia VRS's and Regal tuning once for a VW Transporter 1.9tdi and both showed a huge increase in BHP and MPG, used local tuners as couldnt be bothered driving miles. Heard good things about Pendal and not had any remap related problems on any of the vehicles

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

308 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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mazzamark said:
both showed a huge increase in BHP and MPG
How does a diesel remap improve mpg?

E-bmw

12,379 posts

176 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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It doesn't per-se increase MPG but as it is theoretically working more efficiently rev/rev then it is theoretically doing the same work for less throttle input, so driven at the same speed/acceleration it theoretically uses less fuel.

How much of the theory works in practice may well be another story entirely & not one for me to comment on.

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

308 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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More power could be achieved by raising the boost limit and/or allowing it to over-fuel, but I don't see how it could improve mpg at all, let alone hugely. This is unlike petrol engines where there is scope to lean the mixture out (if you don't care about emissions).

Munter

31,330 posts

265 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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GreenV8S said:
More power could be achieved by raising the boost limit and/or allowing it to over-fuel, but I don't see how it could improve mpg at all, let alone hugely. This is unlike petrol engines where there is scope to lean the mixture out (if you don't care about emissions).
Discussing the reason why (at the time) all local Taxis were Focus estates (Ex police as it turns out). The driver mentioned he wasn't sure if he should get this one chipped for MPG like his old one had been. The improvement was apparently small and you had to be sure you'd do enough miles to make it worth while.

Given Taxi drivers don't spend money on anything, unless it's required/will save them cash. Then anecdotally this seems to suggest, it can be done. But it's probably not worth it for MPG gains.

E-bmw

12,379 posts

176 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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I won't disagree with you but that is the theory, and you know what they say..... Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

stevieturbo

17,970 posts

271 months

Tuesday 5th June 2018
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GreenV8S said:
How does a diesel remap improve mpg?
Through remapping for more efficiency without care for emissions.

Even plug in tuning boxes can easily improve both power and MPG, most recently a friend bought one of the brand new Trafic's, 1.6 twin turbo....always bound to be a nightmare. But you'd hope...and he expected the new 1.6 to be more fuel efficient than his last 2.0 Trafic.

He got a shock lol. It was about 10mpg down ! And back to Renault and naturally they say there is nothing wrong with it.

He bought one of the DTUK boxes and as much as I'd be a sceptic too, it did indeed make it drive better, more power and upped fuel economy to that of his old van. So he was happy.

But there's nothing uncommon about petrol or diesel remaps allowing the user better fuel economy.