2003 Suzuki Ignis Sport Engine Woes
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Hey All,
Not a first post I would of liked to be making, but I am stumped.
I bought a 2003 Ignis Sport a few days back, But it seems to have a rattle from the engine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ikn_eMfJr8
SO , The noise only happens once warm
Normally at 3k revs - however sometimes 2.5 and some times 3.5
Doesn't always happen
Only happens once up to temp
(hence why i didnt spot it before buying)
Steps I have taken to resolve :
Oil Change 10w 40 Semi Synth
Wymmes Tappet Additive
Taken Alternator belt off to check bearing
Screwdriver against the sump to check if it was any louder - it wasnt
What other options do i have ?
Not a first post I would of liked to be making, but I am stumped.
I bought a 2003 Ignis Sport a few days back, But it seems to have a rattle from the engine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ikn_eMfJr8
SO , The noise only happens once warm
Normally at 3k revs - however sometimes 2.5 and some times 3.5
Doesn't always happen
Only happens once up to temp
(hence why i didnt spot it before buying)
Steps I have taken to resolve :
Oil Change 10w 40 Semi Synth
Wymmes Tappet Additive
Taken Alternator belt off to check bearing
Screwdriver against the sump to check if it was any louder - it wasnt
What other options do i have ?
Certainly sounds like a cam chain trying to get out of the engine casing to me.
Could be guides, could be tensioner causing it but it sounds like the chain.
Lift the rocker cover off & feel for slack, if it only happens when warm, do it cold & see how much slack there is then do it hot & see if it is worse.
I am assuming as you don't mention it that you bought it private, alternatively if you bought it from a garage TAKE IT BACK NOW!
Could be guides, could be tensioner causing it but it sounds like the chain.
Lift the rocker cover off & feel for slack, if it only happens when warm, do it cold & see how much slack there is then do it hot & see if it is worse.
I am assuming as you don't mention it that you bought it private, alternatively if you bought it from a garage TAKE IT BACK NOW!
E-bmw said:
Certainly sounds like a cam chain trying to get out of the engine casing to me.
Could be guides, could be tensioner causing it but it sounds like the chain.
Lift the rocker cover off & feel for slack, if it only happens when warm, do it cold & see how much slack there is then do it hot & see if it is worse.
I am assuming as you don't mention it that you bought it private, alternatively if you bought it from a garage TAKE IT BACK NOW!
I bought it from a "dealer" no Warrenty given however I am aware the Consumer rights act covers for this situation. Could be guides, could be tensioner causing it but it sounds like the chain.
Lift the rocker cover off & feel for slack, if it only happens when warm, do it cold & see how much slack there is then do it hot & see if it is worse.
I am assuming as you don't mention it that you bought it private, alternatively if you bought it from a garage TAKE IT BACK NOW!
Drove it 30 miles to work this morning, and only heard the sound around 4 times - if that.
Whilst the consumer act is an option, I would quite like to keep the car - and I am not too bothered about having to do repair work myself. It is a spare car so to speak so I do not rely on it consistantly.
If it is something I am able to fix myself I would rather do that than dealing with the "dealer" more
So I whipped the can cover off this morning after warming the car up
https://youtu.be/U-eFnM5Cvbo
Is this too much play?
https://youtu.be/U-eFnM5Cvbo
Is this too much play?
You can't really tell much looking at the stretch of chain between the cam sprockets with the engine static since the camshafts can tension it via the valve springs.
If you look down inside the timing chain tunnel with a light, the tensioner should be on the inlet manifold side and there is a large curved chain guide that the tensioner pushes against the chain. On the other side is a flat plastic chain guide. Make sure both guides are intact. Use a long screwdriver to ensure the chain is tight across the curved guide.
It looks like the inlet cam has a variator - it's possible for these to start making a racket if they get worn (ask any Alfa twin spark owner...).
If you look down inside the timing chain tunnel with a light, the tensioner should be on the inlet manifold side and there is a large curved chain guide that the tensioner pushes against the chain. On the other side is a flat plastic chain guide. Make sure both guides are intact. Use a long screwdriver to ensure the chain is tight across the curved guide.
It looks like the inlet cam has a variator - it's possible for these to start making a racket if they get worn (ask any Alfa twin spark owner...).
It is a VVT engine so I would say that it does has a variator,
Ill Whip the cover off again once I am home.
I found one article saying that the Tensioners do have the ability to get a bit stuck occasionally which would coincide with the fact that it only happens occasionally.
Sent the Dealer a message around 4 hours ago - no reply yet- not expecting one either to be fair
SO - ill check for play further down the chain - most likely replace the tensioner. Then see where I am .
Ill Whip the cover off again once I am home.
I found one article saying that the Tensioners do have the ability to get a bit stuck occasionally which would coincide with the fact that it only happens occasionally.
Sent the Dealer a message around 4 hours ago - no reply yet- not expecting one either to be fair
SO - ill check for play further down the chain - most likely replace the tensioner. Then see where I am .
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