uprated fuel pump advice
uprated fuel pump advice
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AJ100hp

Original Poster:

23 posts

104 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Short question, seeing as a Walbro uprated fuel pump is cheaper than a standard replacement, will it have any negative effect on a standard engine set up?

Long version, i have a Fiat Panda 100hp (dont laugh...) and seeing as its mileage and age are going against it, i'm going to do a whole host of refresh work including a new fuel pump. standard units are £200 plus, whereas a universal Walbro is around the £50-£60 price point. the engine itself is pretty much stock, save for a modified inlet (there seems to be very little scope for trying to tune the ECU, best i've seen is a little over 110bhp from someone in Italy who wouldnt answer my emails when i said i was going to be local during the summer.) would fitting the Walbro cause any harm or grief to the car? its a single line system, so i guess the regulator is built into the pump/level sender unit, the standard pumps run at 3.5-4bar when new, and I've seen the standard pumps in Fiats drop off with age.

any help or guidance appreciated, any p-taking will be accepted with good humour

GregK2

1,720 posts

170 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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Where are you buying from? Fakes are rife on eBay.
It's something I would personally leave alone, if it aint' broke etc. That said as someone who is a fan of preventative maintenance.
Unless they are a common failure point on the car?

E-bmw

12,361 posts

176 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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If I were you I would stay stock and that is from experience for one reason only.

I bought one myself to use in my Mini Cooper S & as per your system it is a single line system with a regulator in the pump housing.

The problem is that, while the pump fits using a rubber adaptor it does not "fill" the hole the original one came out of, which doesn't sound like too much of a problem & didn't for me.

That is until I got 1/2 way down the first tank of fuel & while going round a large roundabout in a spirited fashion the car completely stone died in the middle of the busy roundabout & I nearly got collected by an asda 32 tonner.

The reason being the pump housing acts as a surge tank, but as the Walpro is slimmer it doesn't keep the fuel in the surge pot and when ever I went below 1/2 tank & went round a long right hander anything other than slowly the car died for 10 seconds.

Cue a quick stock replacement.

AJ100hp

Original Poster:

23 posts

104 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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perfect answesr, thanks to both of you
-yes, it was ebay so i'll steer clear, and ive seen the cars lose power and run mega lean (the ECU adapts quite well to the lack of fuel supply, to a point...)
-i'll bear the pump dimensions in mind, when i run this tank low i'll pull the pump housing out and get some measurements off it. still half decent weather for a couple of weeks before i switch to the daily for permanant winter duties

Mignon

1,018 posts

113 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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I can't see the slightest reason to replace a stock pump that is still working with a non-standard one that might not. If yours is an in-tank pump with built in pressure regulator then a generic one without the correct regulator won't work at all. The ecu will have no idea what fuel pressure it is being sent.

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

308 months

Sunday 9th December 2018
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AJ100hp said:
i'm going to do a whole host of refresh work
It's your car, time and money but an elderly high mileage car that was inexpensive in the first place doesn't seem like a sensible candidate for 'a whole host of refresh work' unless this car has some special significance to you and you are determined to renovate it.

stevieturbo

17,969 posts

271 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Complete waste of money replacing a pump when there is nothing wrong with it.

And what sort of miles are you talking ? 3, 4, 500,000 or something ?

madwrx

91 posts

230 months

Saturday 29th December 2018
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theres a few pumps on ebay from magnetti marreli for a lot less than £200-once pump or bag filter start playing up you will get definite running problems.

thetrickcyclist

239 posts

89 months

Sunday 30th December 2018
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If it ain't bust.....is there an actual technical reason fuel pressure etc??