uprated fuel pump advice
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Short question, seeing as a Walbro uprated fuel pump is cheaper than a standard replacement, will it have any negative effect on a standard engine set up?
Long version, i have a Fiat Panda 100hp (dont laugh...) and seeing as its mileage and age are going against it, i'm going to do a whole host of refresh work including a new fuel pump. standard units are £200 plus, whereas a universal Walbro is around the £50-£60 price point. the engine itself is pretty much stock, save for a modified inlet (there seems to be very little scope for trying to tune the ECU, best i've seen is a little over 110bhp from someone in Italy who wouldnt answer my emails when i said i was going to be local during the summer.) would fitting the Walbro cause any harm or grief to the car? its a single line system, so i guess the regulator is built into the pump/level sender unit, the standard pumps run at 3.5-4bar when new, and I've seen the standard pumps in Fiats drop off with age.
any help or guidance appreciated, any p-taking will be accepted with good humour
Long version, i have a Fiat Panda 100hp (dont laugh...) and seeing as its mileage and age are going against it, i'm going to do a whole host of refresh work including a new fuel pump. standard units are £200 plus, whereas a universal Walbro is around the £50-£60 price point. the engine itself is pretty much stock, save for a modified inlet (there seems to be very little scope for trying to tune the ECU, best i've seen is a little over 110bhp from someone in Italy who wouldnt answer my emails when i said i was going to be local during the summer.) would fitting the Walbro cause any harm or grief to the car? its a single line system, so i guess the regulator is built into the pump/level sender unit, the standard pumps run at 3.5-4bar when new, and I've seen the standard pumps in Fiats drop off with age.
any help or guidance appreciated, any p-taking will be accepted with good humour
If I were you I would stay stock and that is from experience for one reason only.
I bought one myself to use in my Mini Cooper S & as per your system it is a single line system with a regulator in the pump housing.
The problem is that, while the pump fits using a rubber adaptor it does not "fill" the hole the original one came out of, which doesn't sound like too much of a problem & didn't for me.
That is until I got 1/2 way down the first tank of fuel & while going round a large roundabout in a spirited fashion the car completely stone died in the middle of the busy roundabout & I nearly got collected by an asda 32 tonner.
The reason being the pump housing acts as a surge tank, but as the Walpro is slimmer it doesn't keep the fuel in the surge pot and when ever I went below 1/2 tank & went round a long right hander anything other than slowly the car died for 10 seconds.
Cue a quick stock replacement.
I bought one myself to use in my Mini Cooper S & as per your system it is a single line system with a regulator in the pump housing.
The problem is that, while the pump fits using a rubber adaptor it does not "fill" the hole the original one came out of, which doesn't sound like too much of a problem & didn't for me.
That is until I got 1/2 way down the first tank of fuel & while going round a large roundabout in a spirited fashion the car completely stone died in the middle of the busy roundabout & I nearly got collected by an asda 32 tonner.
The reason being the pump housing acts as a surge tank, but as the Walpro is slimmer it doesn't keep the fuel in the surge pot and when ever I went below 1/2 tank & went round a long right hander anything other than slowly the car died for 10 seconds.
Cue a quick stock replacement.
perfect answesr, thanks to both of you
-yes, it was ebay so i'll steer clear, and ive seen the cars lose power and run mega lean (the ECU adapts quite well to the lack of fuel supply, to a point...)
-i'll bear the pump dimensions in mind, when i run this tank low i'll pull the pump housing out and get some measurements off it. still half decent weather for a couple of weeks before i switch to the daily for permanant winter duties
-yes, it was ebay so i'll steer clear, and ive seen the cars lose power and run mega lean (the ECU adapts quite well to the lack of fuel supply, to a point...)
-i'll bear the pump dimensions in mind, when i run this tank low i'll pull the pump housing out and get some measurements off it. still half decent weather for a couple of weeks before i switch to the daily for permanant winter duties
I can't see the slightest reason to replace a stock pump that is still working with a non-standard one that might not. If yours is an in-tank pump with built in pressure regulator then a generic one without the correct regulator won't work at all. The ecu will have no idea what fuel pressure it is being sent.
AJ100hp said:
i'm going to do a whole host of refresh work
It's your car, time and money but an elderly high mileage car that was inexpensive in the first place doesn't seem like a sensible candidate for 'a whole host of refresh work' unless this car has some special significance to you and you are determined to renovate it.Gassing Station | Engines & Drivetrain | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff


