Different Air Filter Materials...
Different Air Filter Materials...
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masonZS

Original Poster:

12 posts

89 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Have been looking a lot into performance air filters recently.

Was wondering what people think about the different materials?

Have heard that a foam one filters less buy makes a better noise, but is also more harmful in the long run.

I have also heard that a cotton gauze air filter will be more filtering that a foam one but makes less noise & the oil can be an issue for the MAF.

Then the stainless steel ones are just a general sh*t show and let everything in...

Debate away!

IanJ9375

1,622 posts

240 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Any oil issue is only from being a numpty whilst re-oiling imho

I've run a K&N (oiled) filter on every car I've owned over 25yrs or so without a single MAF issue, some of them doing 36k a year.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

214 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Air filters are a cheap or cheapish addon, and sometimes help to make a bit more power. Changing the type of airbox will normally have a bigger effect and more impact on noise than just the element alone.

But they aren't going to give you a massive performance improvements, but may make the throttle response better, depending on the car.


Filters are there to filter. And as a rule paper filers very well. Foam flows more, but usually doesn't filter as well. So they are often fine for specific use. Foam filters often require oiling to aid in filtering as well.

Cotton weave needs an oil to aid filtering ability. But should flow more than paper. The issue with cotton weave is they need to be cleaned more often than you'd change a paper filter, if you want to retain the better air flow. This means they are generally an expensive filter to run. Failure to clean them will result in them flowing less air than a paper filter.

Synthetic weave filters look very interesting, used mostly on aircraft and heavy plant machinery. But sometimes make their way onto cars, they usually filter similar to paper elements but flow almost as well as the foam elements.

https://www.donaldson.com/en-us/engine/filters/pro...


Metal mesh are not filters in regards to the context of engine air intakes.

masonZS

Original Poster:

12 posts

89 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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IanJ9375 said:
Any oil issue is only from being a numpty whilst re-oiling imho
I agree as in the past I have used a K&N air filter and never had any issues.



Also, I understand that an air filter doesn't do much for performance. More just looking for a better noise without killing my car...

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

308 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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masonZS said:
Have been looking a lot into performance air filters recently.
As we saw in https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

masonZS said:
Was wondering what people think about the different materials?
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makes a better noise
...
makes less noise
I don't understand why you've latched onto the idea that noise has got anything to do with air filter choice.

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

214 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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GreenV8S said:
I don't understand why you've latched onto the idea that noise has got anything to do with air filter choice.
Those that flow more may make more of an audible noise, but tbh, noise will come from a different airbox. Most factory airboxes are designed to reduce noise and may even include baffles and resonance chambers to accomplish this.

Replacing the entire airbox can often result in more induction noise.

masonZS

Original Poster:

12 posts

89 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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GreenV8S said:
I don't understand why you've latched onto the idea that noise has got anything to do with air filter choice.
Seems like the reason most people get an aftermarket air filter is for noise... Doubt people are spending £100+ for for an extra 1-2bhp...


Also, should of made it more clear. I mean aftermarket 'pod/mushroom' filters rather than standard panel filters.

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

308 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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masonZS said:
Seems like the reason most people get an aftermarket air filter is for noise...
Nope - I think you are in a very small minority of people concerned about that.

stevieturbo

17,969 posts

271 months

Monday 10th December 2018
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Depending on the application, you'd be an idiot to move away from OEM filters.