SEAT Leon 1.9d - Car not running... Clink noise, smoke...
Discussion
Hi folks, My car just died on me today. I was coming up a hill on the way home and decided to give it a little extra 'juice' as the road was empty. Got to about 4k revs then I heard a clunk sound, immediate loss of power and smoke bellowing out of the car (seemed to be white/blue colour). There was also a really strong burning smell, so much so, that I thought something had caught fire. I managed to get to the top of the hill the coasted down to the bottom of the road where I pulled over and switched it off. I noticed a red oil pressure warning came on too, that was the only dashboard light I noticed. Car would not start again, so I had to lock it up and walk the rest of the way home. I am thinking engine or turbo.
Any ideas what it might be? All my local mechanics have taken the day off.
Any ideas what it might be? All my local mechanics have taken the day off.
It was just serviced last month. It wasn't showing any signs of overheating, I always make sure to check the temp gauge before any hard accelerating and did so today right before it happened.
There was a slight whirling noise for the past few months every time I accelerated. Almost sounded like a dump valve. I asked the mechanic about it and he said he wasn't sure what it was but not to worry about it.
There was a slight whirling noise for the past few months every time I accelerated. Almost sounded like a dump valve. I asked the mechanic about it and he said he wasn't sure what it was but not to worry about it.
Probably something broke.
Speculation at this point is entirely useless, you won't be able to do anything either to fix it so wait and take it in the garage.
I'm going to speculate anyway, it is PH after all.
It's not your DPF so.. white smoke..water getting into the cylinders, blue smoke... oil
Yep it's broke and you probably bent something in the cylinder too..
Cylinder head gasket anyone?
Now who is next?
PS Tryng to start it again may make it worse. Join the AA or some such other organisation and get it towed.
Speculation at this point is entirely useless, you won't be able to do anything either to fix it so wait and take it in the garage.
I'm going to speculate anyway, it is PH after all.
It's not your DPF so.. white smoke..water getting into the cylinders, blue smoke... oil
Yep it's broke and you probably bent something in the cylinder too..
Cylinder head gasket anyone?
Now who is next?
PS Tryng to start it again may make it worse. Join the AA or some such other organisation and get it towed.
Edited by LarsG on Saturday 26th January 15:42
LarsG said:
Probably something broke.
Speculation at this point is entirely useless, you won't be able to do anything either to fix it so wait and take it in the garage.
I'm going to speculate anyway, it is PH after all.
It's not your DPF so.. white smoke..water getting into the cylinders, blue smoke... oil
Yep it's broke and you probably bent something in the cylinder too..
Now who is next?
Yeah, I was leaning toward something broke too. I think you hit the head on the nail. Speculation at this point is entirely useless, you won't be able to do anything either to fix it so wait and take it in the garage.
I'm going to speculate anyway, it is PH after all.
It's not your DPF so.. white smoke..water getting into the cylinders, blue smoke... oil
Yep it's broke and you probably bent something in the cylinder too..
Now who is next?
Edited by LarsG on Saturday 26th January 15:38
More than likely with specific engine codes on the 1.9...from your description you now have a conrod through the side of the block.
I think it's BXE and BKC's
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=11...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=12...
Not really anyones fault other than VW's as from other info online, it seems some regions used certain pistons, which have a habit of the rod pulling out of the piston, then rod failure and total destruction.
I think it was a guy from Argentina who spotted this, as over there they had almost no failures...and almost no engines there used the pistons found in the high failure engines.
I think it's BXE and BKC's
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=11...
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=12...
Not really anyones fault other than VW's as from other info online, it seems some regions used certain pistons, which have a habit of the rod pulling out of the piston, then rod failure and total destruction.
I think it was a guy from Argentina who spotted this, as over there they had almost no failures...and almost no engines there used the pistons found in the high failure engines.
Hi, thanks for the replies folks.
Yeah, its a 2009, so possibly a BXE code engine (cant check as there's a storm out there tonight and the car is parked on the side of the road 10 minutes away).
I was always under the impression that the 1.9d's were bulletproof engines and was told to stay away from the 2.0s...
Yeah, its a 2009, so possibly a BXE code engine (cant check as there's a storm out there tonight and the car is parked on the side of the road 10 minutes away).
I was always under the impression that the 1.9d's were bulletproof engines and was told to stay away from the 2.0s...
I general yes they are very good...problem is there are loads of variants of the 1.9
And there are 2-3 codes that throw rods out the block lol. BXE and BLS are two that spring to mind, but they're used over a range of years and models.
As said it isnt really yours, or any garages fault. When a friends did it a few years ago, he had literally just pulled away from a stop, so no revving hard or abuse etc.
I think he replaced his engine with a BKC, which isnt a dodgy engine, although not 100% a straight swap, but it's as close as you can get. There were only minimal changes needed made to fit it.
It just seemed pointless to buy another used BXE...which could suffer the same fate at any time.
And there are 2-3 codes that throw rods out the block lol. BXE and BLS are two that spring to mind, but they're used over a range of years and models.
As said it isnt really yours, or any garages fault. When a friends did it a few years ago, he had literally just pulled away from a stop, so no revving hard or abuse etc.
I think he replaced his engine with a BKC, which isnt a dodgy engine, although not 100% a straight swap, but it's as close as you can get. There were only minimal changes needed made to fit it.
It just seemed pointless to buy another used BXE...which could suffer the same fate at any time.
It'd be a hard one to want to fix given the potential for another BXE to die again at any time.
As said, I think it was a BKC that was almost a 100% straight swap, and isnt prone to dying. But whether it's really sensible to spend the money to swap etc relative to value of the car, hard to say.
As said, I think it was a BKC that was almost a 100% straight swap, and isnt prone to dying. But whether it's really sensible to spend the money to swap etc relative to value of the car, hard to say.
Gassing Station | Engines & Drivetrain | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff