Cheap eBay sport cats... how bad are they?
Cheap eBay sport cats... how bad are they?
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bhaji

Original Poster:

4 posts

75 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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So I need some replacement downpipes and cats.

Comparing the prices of generic ebay stuff (most of which looks like Direnza), I'm looking at maybe 25-30% of the price compared with the mainstream Milltek, Scorpion etc.

Just how bad are the sports cats on these cheap ebay deals? Being non-typed isn't a problem.

Give me your horror stories before I buy some

E-bmw

12,281 posts

175 months

Tuesday 3rd December 2019
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Make sure they are metal substrate rather than ceramic and they should be OK.

I use a Toyosports (IIRC) one on my R53 & it is fine over 2 years & MOTs down the line.

bhaji

Original Poster:

4 posts

75 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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Cheers for the reply. I think these are ceramic cats... which then leads on to, "how bad a cheap ebay ceramic cats?" laugh

Vw nut

967 posts

114 months

Thursday 5th December 2019
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Am interested in this too was thinking about decat but worried come mot time

E-bmw

12,281 posts

175 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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Vw nut said:
Am interested in this too was thinking about decat but worried come mot time
You should be (worried) as without a cat it will fail if the MOT tester has his eyes on.

paintman

7,852 posts

213 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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My own experience of aftermarket cats was with a Pug 306.
The original cat had a split in one of the pipes & it was quicker to stick a cheapie aftermarket on to get it through the MoT.
12 months later it failed badly on emissions.
By this time I had welded the pipe up on the original cat.
Refitted the original cat & sailed through the Mot with very low emissions.
Chat with the tester - who I've known for years - he said this is not unusual, the cheapies are often OK for one test but not for subsequent ones.
The original was more than twice the size of the cheapie.

bhaji

Original Poster:

4 posts

75 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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Thanks for the feedback everyone.... I think I'll look at some other options then!

E-bmw

12,281 posts

175 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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Show us the one you are looking at then.

Krikkit

27,836 posts

204 months

Friday 6th December 2019
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I had the same as paint man with a cheap cat, it got through a test for one year, then it was totally useless the next year.

CoolHands

22,272 posts

218 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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So put it on for the test, remove and store for a year, put it back on next time

227bhp

10,203 posts

151 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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CoolHands said:
So put it on for the test, remove and store for a year, put it back on next time
It's selfish attitudes like that are getting us where we are now.

CoolHands

22,272 posts

218 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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What all the diesel st that gets chucked out the back of vans & lorries? I don’t think so

227bhp

10,203 posts

151 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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paintman said:
The original was more than twice the size of the cheapie.
And more than twice the price too wink
OE cats are designed to last a lifetime, aftermarket ones not. Some of the old ones we take off now and again on EOLVs are worth a fair bit too due to the contents, I got about £80 for a good one the other week, the aftermarket ones aren't worth much.

anonymous-user

77 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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227bhp said:
It's selfish attitudes like that are getting us where we are now.
I don't think we will ever stop decatting.

Then again diesels pumping out all that rubbish probably doesn't help.

Come electric time, soot and decats will be a worry of the past smile

227bhp

10,203 posts

151 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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When it comes to environmental issues people ALWAYS point the finger elsewhere and make excuses, never at themselves.
The fact is doing something positive begins at home.
Diesels are so much cleaner these days until some dhead removes all the emissions equipment and gives it an overfuelling remap.
I distinctly remember as a kid walking along the main road and have trucks belch out black acrid fumes all over me, you don't get that anymore.
Anyone who removes emissions control devices from a road car is an imbecile.

anonymous-user

77 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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227bhp said:
When it comes to environmental issues people ALWAYS point the finger elsewhere and make excuses, never at themselves.
The fact is doing something positive begins at home.
Diesels are so much cleaner these days until some dhead removes all the emissions equipment and gives it an overfuelling remap.
I distinctly remember as a kid walking along the main road and have trucks belch out black acrid fumes all over me, you don't get that anymore.
Anyone who removes emissions control devices from a road car is an imbecile.
Unless the manufac blags the emissions test in the first place...

Zarco

20,270 posts

232 months

Saturday 7th December 2019
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5Cylinder said:
227bhp said:
When it comes to environmental issues people ALWAYS point the finger elsewhere and make excuses, never at themselves.
The fact is doing something positive begins at home.
Diesels are so much cleaner these days until some dhead removes all the emissions equipment and gives it an overfuelling remap.
I distinctly remember as a kid walking along the main road and have trucks belch out black acrid fumes all over me, you don't get that anymore.
Anyone who removes emissions control devices from a road car is an imbecile.
Unless the manufac blags the emissions test in the first place...
Hardly. Even if VW have specced the emission controls it'll be better than taking it off completely.

It really pisses me off following cars/vans in a cloud of black diesel smoke. Should be harsh penalties for it in my book.