Alternators, TALK TO ME!
Alternators, TALK TO ME!
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wolfracesonic

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8,877 posts

150 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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I often put my ‘for best’ car on charge during the week, which got me to wondering about alternators. Is the rate they charge the battery constant, or does it increase with engine revs and how does their performance compare to a charger plugged into the mains. Also, how long would you have to drive your car for it to fully charge a battery that say only just managed to turn the engine over, roughly? Cheers!

Chris32345

2,139 posts

85 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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Depends on the size of the battery bit easily 30 mins+ of driving so 1500rmp+
Something like a large van battery would like be nearer to the hour Mark for a full charge

finlo

4,267 posts

226 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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Your alternator will never fully charge your battery apparently.

Olas

911 posts

80 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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Alternators are designed to keep a good condition full battery topped up. Asking an alternator to fully charge a dead battery significantly increases the load on the alternator and reduces its lifespan accordingly.

In terms of answering your question of how long, it depends on the amp:hour rating of the alt. and the capacity of the battery.

wolfracesonic

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8,877 posts

150 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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Thanksthumbup

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

307 months

Saturday 22nd February 2020
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wolfracesonic said:
I often put my ‘for best’ car on charge during the week, which got me to wondering about alternators. Is the rate they charge the battery constant, or does it increase with engine revs and how does their performance compare to a charger plugged into the mains. Also, how long would you have to drive your car for it to fully charge a battery that say only just managed to turn the engine over, roughly? Cheers!
Alternators only put a small current into the battery - typically around 5-6 Amps. If it's a typical car battery of about 50 Ah capacity and starting at 50% charged then it would need about 30 Amp-hours put into it which could take 6+ hours of continuous driving.

eliot

11,988 posts

277 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Read this to understand how to properly charge a battery and why just driving around for 30-60 minutes wont charge a battery that is low:
https://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/chargi...

I have many batteries both in cars and in the garage and I keep them all topped up and make sure they never get low.
Shoving a 30amp charger on a dead battery (under 10.5) does it no good whatsoever.

Olas

911 posts

80 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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An isolator switch is very helpful when trying to preserve the battery charge of a dormant vehicle.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

132 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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Difficult one this

Batteries that have been slowly drained to flat will take much longer to charge than batteries that have been quickly drained to flat

Alternators will happily work away giving their maximum output which then reduces over time as the battery charges up for several hours and will eventually charge a flat battery to a fully charged state

There's a catch though

Batteries don't like loads of amps being fired at them for long periods as the heat generated can damage their plates

This tells us that trickle chargers are good for flat batteries

The above is for standard lead acid type batteries

OP mentions flat and not dead flat, dead flat is a different ball game

Edited by Penelope Stopit on Sunday 23 February 12:41

paintman

7,852 posts

213 months

HustleRussell

26,127 posts

183 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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If your battery is going flat over the course of a short period (weeks), you have a tired battery or a parasitic load. Charging should not be necessary.

If you are leaving your car for a longer period then a battery ‘conditioner’, not a ‘charger’, is the tool for the job.

Penelope Stopit

11,209 posts

132 months

Sunday 23rd February 2020
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paintman said:
Mmmmm best edit my above post as it's for standard lead acid batteries, didn't consider other battery types