Main dealer uses wrong fluid in LSD
Main dealer uses wrong fluid in LSD
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ForceAspirated

Original Poster:

7 posts

41 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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I recently noticed vibration coming from the rear diff at parking speeds whilst turning. Likewise, also a few uncharacteristic clunks.

This all occurred after a major service was carried out by the main dealer. I asked the dealer if they had changed the diff fluid during the service. They confirmed they had.

I made an appointment with the dealer and their tech confirmed my suspicions that the issue was most likely the rear diff.

The dealer has since confirmed that they made a mistake when the car was serviced and replaced the diff fluids with the wrong type.

The dealer is adamant that they can just flush the diff and replenish with the correct fluid.

Between the service and the identification of the issue, the car has covered several thousand miles. I am of the opinion that there is no way of knowing what damage could have been done and that the diff should be replaced.

I'd appreciate your thoughts.

paradigital

1,070 posts

174 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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I’d at least be wanting the diff opened and inspected, not just flushed with fingers crossed.

The likelihood is that a main dealer is more aligned to replace the diff as a part than to have the expertise to crack it open and inspect/repair it, but that’s their problem.

richhead

2,901 posts

33 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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Depends what diff is in it, and how "wrong" the oil was really, but does sound like they should be fixing it.
It maybe that an oil change will sort it out without any damage, like i said all depends how different the oils are, and if any damage has been done, simply changing the spec of the oil may sort it out

_Neal_

2,857 posts

241 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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What car is it, age etc?

Perhaps get them to flush it and replace the fluid but extend/add a warranty to cover the diff? Can't see why they would agree to replace the diff if it operates perfectly with new fluid, but them standing behind what they are saying would seem reasonable.


CoolHands

22,045 posts

217 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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Hitch up your britches bandit

Caddyshack

13,640 posts

228 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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I expect the correct oli will sort it.

If in doubt speak to someone like Bara at Bara Motorsport as he will be able to explain based on the type of diff if it’s an issue to worry about.

Art Keller

857 posts

101 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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It sounds like the dealer didn't add friction modifyer to the diff oil ..... it wont cause any damage but would make a few clunking noises amd feel like the car is crabbing at the back during a tight turn at parking speeds

Sebring440

3,041 posts

118 months

Monday 11th September 2023
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It sounds like LSD chatter. As noted above, changing to the correct oil should solve the problem.

Krikkit

27,805 posts

203 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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Get the confirmation that they've filled it with the wrong oil in writing. Let them correct the mistake and see how it is, if you have undue failure in the next few years (I think vanishingly unlikely) then you've got them over a barrel.

66HFM

787 posts

47 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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_Neal_ said:
What car is it, age etc?

Perhaps get them to flush it and replace the fluid but extend/add a warranty to cover the diff? Can't see why they would agree to replace the diff if it operates perfectly with new fluid, but them standing behind what they are saying would seem reasonable.
As per advice from Neal, get them (in writing) to agree to warranty the diff for [x] years or until you sell it, or if they refuse to play ball get them to remove it and an inspection undertaken on it - whilst they lend you a top of the range courtesy car for the day(s)...

lemonslap

998 posts

177 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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This thread fills me with dread… Our BMW X5M is due a rear diff oil change at it’s next service. It has three chambers with the outer ones requiring a specific fill quantity and type, each slightly different (560ml and 580ml) and the centre requiring normal diff oil but also different weight…. What could go wrong!

richhead

2,901 posts

33 months

Tuesday 12th September 2023
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lemonslap said:
This thread fills me with dread… Our BMW X5M is due a rear diff oil change at it’s next service. It has three chambers with the outer ones requiring a specific fill quantity and type, each slightly different (560ml and 580ml) and the centre requiring normal diff oil but also different weight…. What could go wrong!
that sound overly complex, are there lsd's involved or electronics, if not i would just use ep90, please dont sue me if it goes wrong.

ForceAspirated

Original Poster:

7 posts

41 months

Wednesday 13th September 2023
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Some great advice guys.

THANK YOU so much.

I'll update the thread when I have more information,