Severe Engine problems!!

[anonymous-user]

The initial message was deleted from this topic on 31 March 2024 at 13:35

[OldGermanHeaps]

Turbo and dpf wont prevent it firing.
Unlikely to be 4 bad injectors.
Before wasting time and money put a scope on the injector wiring to see if the ecu is trying to fire them. Read live value for rail pressure while cranking. Check lift pump is delivering fuel. Get a comprssion test. Check the basics. Are you getting live values?

[stevieturbo]

So....you know nothing about cars, and bought a non runner off an auction ?

No red flags there.

Have you contacted Kia to see if there is any history ?

When you talk to the car/ecu, presumably it must be telling you some information ? If so, what ?

[GreenV8S]

woolyg said:

if you can suggest anything else or any advice would be most appreciated.

Fixing this will need somebody capable of diagnosing the problems, and then fixing them. From your post I don't get the impression that will be you. I suggest that you trying to come up with an 'action plan' to fix it is worse than useless unless you plan to fix it yourself. I have never met any competent mechanic who appreciated being told what to do by somebody who has no clue.

It's conceivable that the car is beyond economic repair.

Even if it's economic to repair it, you have to judge whether the price justifies the cost of fixing it. The fact it was sold as a non runner suggests the original owner decided it was better to sell it, and they presumably understood the problem better than you do.

My advice is that unless you have the skills and resources to fix the car yourself, you should try to sell it in the same condition you bought it, for a similar price. Non runners like this are really best left to people able to asses the problem and fix it themselves. Even if you manage to fix it, it's likely you'll end up spending more than you saved, if you're paying professional rates.

[dave01253]

Kias have 7 year warranty. Take it in!

[Evanivitch]

woolyg said:

The car has a full service history

So it still had the balance of a 7 year warranty?

[OldGermanHeaps]

Forgot school holidays started today. Should have known better.

[stevieturbo]

woolyg said:

I know for a fact that the high gas emissions is causing the car not to run.

You do ?

Do you even understand what it is you're reading ?

[stevieturbo]

woolyg said:

In reality I need to repair or replace anything that cause high engine gas pressure.

Utter nonsense.

What in your world is "high engine gas pressure." ?

[Simon_GH]

OldGermanHeaps said:

Turbo and dpf wont prevent it firing.
Unlikely to be 4 bad injectors.
Before wasting time and money put a scope on the injector wiring to see if the ecu is trying to fire them. Read live value for rail pressure while cranking. Check lift pump is delivering fuel. Get a comprssion test. Check the basics. Are you getting live values?

An EGR valve might inhibit starting though? Mine did on an old Focus diesel. Surely you can’t do that much damage to any modern car in just 19,000 miles. Perhaps an mis-fuel but it should be easy enough to check the tank.

Edited by Simon_GH on Friday 29th March 20:25

[OldGermanHeaps]

Simon_GH said:

An EGR valve might inhibit starting though? Mine did on an old Focus diesel. Surely you can’t do that much damage to any modern car in just 19,000 miles. Perhaps an mis-fuel but it should be easy enough to check the tank.

Edited by Simon_GH on Friday 29th March 20:25

Doubt egr would prevent it firing, if the ngine has been sitting its clean air in there so ir would still fire
In this case it doesnt matter because the car is imaginary, its high gas pressure in someones brain cavity thats the problem.

[CrgT16]

Exhaust valve stuck? Turbo stuck?

Does it crank properly, does it want to start?

Check inlet, fuel pressure, compression, turbo and exhaust valves.

Start one end and follow through, in a methodical way.

If it cranks check turbo and valves then injectors. That’s what I would do. Could be ecu as well

[stevemcs]

OldGermanHeaps said:

Doubt egr would prevent it firing, if the ngine has been sitting its clean air in there so ir would still fire
In this case it doesnt matter because the car is imaginary, its high gas pressure in someones brain cavity thats the problem.

They will stop them starting, but yes if the dpf is blocked disconnect it and try, it will be loud but will run.

[GreenV8S]

woolyg said:

from a highly recommended fault diagnoser

... who has apparently failed to diagnose the fault.

[Junglebert]

woolyg said:

there exact words not mine

Not my words Lynn, the words of Top Gear magazine.

[Junglebert]

God it was wasn’t it, that would have been an amazing post if I’d got the bloody names right!

[hidetheelephants]

Still not seeing why getting it reassembled and dumping it with a Kia dealer isn't your 1st priority in life. It's still got warranty.

[darreni]

Junglebert said:

woolyg said:

there exact words not mine

Not my words Lynn, the words of Top Gear magazine.

[darreni]

woolyg said:

Yes, it's probably my only option. I was concerned because the mot had expired and the car had a long standing engine problem. But I could just put it in and see what they say, even if it means paying for a diagnostic check then taking it back out if they aren't going to cover it on the warranty.

You’ll likely wipe out any saving over buying a straight car in the first place.

[ConnectionError]

hidetheelephants said:

Still not seeing why getting it reassembled and dumping it with a Kia dealer isn't your 1st priority in life. It's still got warranty.

If the car was still covered by the warranty the car would have been fixed before ending up at Copart. Something has happened to the engine/car that is not covered by warranty would be my guess, and the previous owner got shot.