Persistent EML on Citroen DS3
Persistent EML on Citroen DS3
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rfrgsn

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7 posts

Tuesday
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63 plate Citroen DS3 1.6 Petrol

Already been to one garage who replaced the timing chain as the fault showing was for timing. They did say after that there was a new fault showing for ABS and power steering (no faults were showing before the car went in) but they put this down to faulty wiring, reset the codes and this hasn’t reappeared.

Picked the car up from them and was running fine for about 30 mins before the car went into limp mode, EML back on and had to be recovered back to the garage. 

Since then it has a new solenoid, new lift pump/motor, crank sensor etc. all parts that can be have been replaced.

Car running fine after this for 2 days until it wouldn’t start one morning, battery completely dead, thought this was maybe just a coincidence so i’ve replaced the battery and car was driving fine for another day until the orange EML has came back on and showing the following codes:

P1062 -VVL Lift/Timing P1067 - VVL Relay/Wiring P1078 - VVL/Intake Manifold Runner P1015 - VVL Motor

Some codes are showing twice? Been in contact with the garage and the reckon its some sort of electrical fault but said they have looked at everything.

paul_c123

1,163 posts

10 months

Tuesday
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They haven't looked at everything. If they had, they'd have properly diagnosed the fault.

Do you yourself have a decent diagnostic computer, something which can plot graphs of live data?

anyoldcardave

921 posts

84 months

Tuesday
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Did you replace it with a new battery ? If so that could also be faulty, if not try a new battery before you do anything else.

You would not believe how often a very slight drop in the battery can cost you a lot of money for nothing.


stevemcs

9,598 posts

110 months

Tuesday
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I presume they replaced the vvt pulleys ? Does yours have the vvt motor on the back of the head - have they reset that

cliffords

2,793 posts

40 months

Tuesday
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I have a C3 that threw up most codes and faults due to corrosion on the pins of the body control module. Basically the under bonnet fusebox unit . Lifting two of the three main connections off and I found broken pins . Replacement from scrap yard easy and no programming required.
Very common fault on these cars . Makes lots of thing fail over and above the circuits it directly controlled .

E-bmw

11,335 posts

169 months

Yesterday (08:31)
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rfrgsn said:
P1062 -VVL Lift/Timing P1067 - VVL Relay/Wiring P1078 - VVL/Intake Manifold Runner P1015 - VVL Motor

Some codes are showing twice? Been in contact with the garage and the reckon its some sort of electrical fault but said they have looked at everything.
No, so what they are actually saying is that they are a parts fitting service, not a garage that can diagnose faults on cars, and they have come to the end of their usefulness.


rfrgsn

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7 posts

Yesterday (17:20)
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paul_c123 said:
They haven't looked at everything. If they had, they'd have properly diagnosed the fault.

Do you yourself have a decent diagnostic computer, something which can plot graphs of live data?
Yes I bought a scanner off Amazon which is how I got the codes above - what am I looking for in the data? I can’t post the link as I am a new user it’s the MOTOPOWER MP69033

rfrgsn

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7 posts

Yesterday (17:21)
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anyoldcardave said:
Did you replace it with a new battery ? If so that could also be faulty, if not try a new battery before you do anything else.

You would not believe how often a very slight drop in the battery can cost you a lot of money for nothing.
Yes mate brand new Bosch battery

rfrgsn

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Yesterday (17:22)
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stevemcs said:
I presume they replaced the vvt pulleys ? Does yours have the vvt motor on the back of the head - have they reset that
I can only assume they have, my knowledge of the car doesn’t stretch too far but they are adamant they have done all they can and can’t explain why it keeps coming back

rfrgsn

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Yesterday (17:24)
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E-bmw said:
No, so what they are actually saying is that they are a parts fitting service, not a garage that can diagnose faults on cars, and they have come to the end of their usefulness.
They are a reputable local garage so wouldn’t want to assume any lack of trying, they had an auto electrics specialist look at it and both are stumped

paul_c123

1,163 posts

10 months

Yesterday (18:17)
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rfrgsn said:
Yes I bought a scanner off Amazon which is how I got the codes above - what am I looking for in the data? I can t post the link as I am a new user it s the MOTOPOWER MP69033
Cam/crank correlation

Cam advance vs cam advance requested (for both cams, if both have VVT)