DSG shunted while in Park
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The wife's Sharan with DSG box was shunted at the weekend in a petrol station, she was in paying at the time, Back bumper damage and the rear plastic "diffuser" bit is bent and can't be put back in. Guy behind hit the accelerator rather than the brake easing up to the pump behind.
Anyway, she went to start it and she said it made a weird unpleasant noise and then noticed it was in reverse, clearly got shunted hard enough to force the change from Park to reverse. Put it back in Park and it started ok. Didn't think much of it but we've now noticed a strange effect when driving. at just over 40 in Sport, and at 65 in Drive there's a weird effect, not really something you hear more feel it in your ears - bit like a subtle version of that helicopter effect if you have a single window open, definitely something new
Wondering now if the shunt has damaged something in the drivetrain, it will still hold in Park on a slope
Anyway, she went to start it and she said it made a weird unpleasant noise and then noticed it was in reverse, clearly got shunted hard enough to force the change from Park to reverse. Put it back in Park and it started ok. Didn't think much of it but we've now noticed a strange effect when driving. at just over 40 in Sport, and at 65 in Drive there's a weird effect, not really something you hear more feel it in your ears - bit like a subtle version of that helicopter effect if you have a single window open, definitely something new
Wondering now if the shunt has damaged something in the drivetrain, it will still hold in Park on a slope
If it was in Park and shunted then yes there can be gearbox damage. DSGs have a parking pawl, same as a normal auto, which is basically a pin or series of pins that hold the transmission stationary when engaged so you can imagine what a shunt that moves the car forward in park can do. You can speculate as to what exactly you're hearing, a bit of bent or broken pawl rubbing on some rotating part presumably.
If you haven't gone through insurance you're going to want to, because this will become expensive.
FWIW this is also why you shouldn't put the gearbox into P in stationary traffic.
If you haven't gone through insurance you're going to want to, because this will become expensive.
FWIW this is also why you shouldn't put the gearbox into P in stationary traffic.
They're worth decent money, if the insurance write it off but offer you a lower settlement to keep it I would consider calling gearbox specialists and finding out what they can do for you. 150k is pretty good going for a DSG box anyway so putting a rebuilt one in isn't the end of the world, particularly if the clumsy w
kers insurance company effectively pays for it by the payment for your car.
Lucky for everyone nobody was walking in between the cars when it happened, anyone who can do that has no business ever getting behind the wheel of a car again though.
kers insurance company effectively pays for it by the payment for your car.Lucky for everyone nobody was walking in between the cars when it happened, anyone who can do that has no business ever getting behind the wheel of a car again though.
Speak to these guys for an opinion. They are one of the finest DSG specialists in the U.K.
https://milta.co/
https://milta.co/
Edited by normalbloke on Monday 1st December 14:51
Cheers all,
They have told her not to drive it once home tonight and are arranging a hire car, did already say though if it's anything more than a bumper it's very close to not being economically viable
Have to see what the approved repairers say I guess, I think I'd want to know the gearbox has been at least checked over, don't fancy a bill for a broken one of those
They have told her not to drive it once home tonight and are arranging a hire car, did already say though if it's anything more than a bumper it's very close to not being economically viable
Have to see what the approved repairers say I guess, I think I'd want to know the gearbox has been at least checked over, don't fancy a bill for a broken one of those
I know left foot braking is a thing if you race or track a car with only 2 pedals but I do wonder how many numpties do that on the road.
My dear old Dad did that with the family Daf 44 variomatic back in the 70s and my Mum still goes on about it, as he borked it, and he's been gone 10 years now
I certainly didn't get my Driving Godlike prowess from him
My dear old Dad did that with the family Daf 44 variomatic back in the 70s and my Mum still goes on about it, as he borked it, and he's been gone 10 years now
I certainly didn't get my Driving Godlike prowess from him
Sk00p said:
Guy behind hit the accelerator rather than the brake easing up to the pump behind.
How do you even do this, if you manage to confuse the two pedals then you really should not be on the road. Imagine if there was a pedestrian on the forecourt instead of your car.The number of automatic cars I see smashed into walls, shops and trees near me these days is scary.
Sk00p said:
Cheers all,
They have told her not to drive it once home tonight and are arranging a hire car, did already say though if it's anything more than a bumper it's very close to not being economically viable
Have to see what the approved repairers say I guess, I think I'd want to know the gearbox has been at least checked over, don't fancy a bill for a broken one of those
Hate to say it but I'd start shopping for another, if the gearbox is at all suspect it won't be worth paying to remove, strip and fix itThey have told her not to drive it once home tonight and are arranging a hire car, did already say though if it's anything more than a bumper it's very close to not being economically viable
Have to see what the approved repairers say I guess, I think I'd want to know the gearbox has been at least checked over, don't fancy a bill for a broken one of those
GeniusOfLove said:
If it was in Park and shunted then yes there can be gearbox damage. DSGs have a parking pawl, same as a normal auto, which is basically a pin or series of pins that hold the transmission stationary when engaged so you can imagine what a shunt that moves the car forward in park can do. You can speculate as to what exactly you're hearing, a bit of bent or broken pawl rubbing on some rotating part presumably.
If you haven't gone through insurance you're going to want to, because this will become expensive.
FWIW this is also why you shouldn't put the gearbox into P in stationary traffic.
I downloaded this pic for a friend with a Tiguan DSG to dissuade him from selecting park on a steep slope before he's applied the handbrake. Overloading either snaps the pawl, fractures the gearbox casing, or both.If you haven't gone through insurance you're going to want to, because this will become expensive.
FWIW this is also why you shouldn't put the gearbox into P in stationary traffic.
croyde said:
I know left foot braking is a thing if you race or track a car with only 2 pedals but I do wonder how many numpties do that on the road.
My dear old Dad did that with the family Daf 44 variomatic back in the 70s and my Mum still goes on about it, as he borked it, and he's been gone 10 years now
I certainly didn't get my Driving Godlike prowess from him
Usually not possible on most modern autos as pressing the brake cuts the throttle. My dear old Dad did that with the family Daf 44 variomatic back in the 70s and my Mum still goes on about it, as he borked it, and he's been gone 10 years now
I certainly didn't get my Driving Godlike prowess from him
thebraketester said:
Usually not possible on most modern autos as pressing the brake cuts the throttle.
Totally OT but a mate who is a club racer had his first auto a few years back, a Gen 1 sprinter converted to a sleeperHe called me up in a panic thinking he'd bought a dud as it kept lurching and clunking as he came on and off the throttle.
I drove it and it was absolutely sweet (which wound him up no end
), turns out having only driven racing cars and karts with two pedals he was double pedalling it which caused the gearbox to get confused and either clumsily lock/unlock the torque converter or clonk into a different gear every time he overlapped!Noted though OP, never really thought about it, assumed worst case was the pawl just breaking off.
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