Vauxhall Grandland X 1.2 engine failure - fuel pump?
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Daughter called last night in a panic. After birth of her boy she swapped her JCW for a (shudder) Grandland X. It is a 1.2 petrol which I believe is the PSA wet belt?
Driving home the engine cut out on country backroads with no lay-by/safe place to stop. I know, I know, what you are going to say, but told me she had tried to start it again, it caught and ran for 20 seconds and then cut out. Which she tried again. *ahem* and again - until she called and told her to stop.
The fact it turned over and caught seems to me it isn’t the wet belt or it wouldn’t turn over and would be lunched. I have no experience of a wet belt engine. Engine turning over and tuning before cutting out could be anything from fuel pump (dropping pressure after the cold start cycle?), fuel pump relay, possibly injectors but seems unlikely I can’t see it being MAF/AICV. She had called the 'family' mechanic who said -"ah, short journeys. Filter is clogged up" - assuming he means DPF it isn’t a diesel..
I am only trying to calm her and fiancé down a bit as they are in disaster mode and panicking. I am 25 miles away, my son is grabbing my OBDII reader from my tools he 'acquired' to read any codes tomorrow - trying to stop her arranging for the 'family mechanic' to collect it, if my assumption on his 'DPF clogged' comment is correct.
I can work my way around a k-series (clumsily), no experience of a wet-belt. Depending on the code, was going to suggest start at the relay, no harm cleaning the IACV, before looking at the pump.
Am I missing something else, completely heading the wrong way, engine is toast and scrap it ... hurl any insults/abuse
Driving home the engine cut out on country backroads with no lay-by/safe place to stop. I know, I know, what you are going to say, but told me she had tried to start it again, it caught and ran for 20 seconds and then cut out. Which she tried again. *ahem* and again - until she called and told her to stop.
The fact it turned over and caught seems to me it isn’t the wet belt or it wouldn’t turn over and would be lunched. I have no experience of a wet belt engine. Engine turning over and tuning before cutting out could be anything from fuel pump (dropping pressure after the cold start cycle?), fuel pump relay, possibly injectors but seems unlikely I can’t see it being MAF/AICV. She had called the 'family' mechanic who said -"ah, short journeys. Filter is clogged up" - assuming he means DPF it isn’t a diesel..
I am only trying to calm her and fiancé down a bit as they are in disaster mode and panicking. I am 25 miles away, my son is grabbing my OBDII reader from my tools he 'acquired' to read any codes tomorrow - trying to stop her arranging for the 'family mechanic' to collect it, if my assumption on his 'DPF clogged' comment is correct.
I can work my way around a k-series (clumsily), no experience of a wet-belt. Depending on the code, was going to suggest start at the relay, no harm cleaning the IACV, before looking at the pump.
Am I missing something else, completely heading the wrong way, engine is toast and scrap it ... hurl any insults/abuse
Simon-xfh6z said:
She had called the 'family' mechanic who said -"ah, short journeys. Filter is clogged up" - assuming he means DPF it isn t a diesel..
No, I doubt he means DPF, he most likely means the oil filter/strainer will likely be blocked with rubber "dust/debris" fron the belt causing NO oil pressure & a junked engine.Sounds fuel related to me, but then what do any of us know when it comes to modern ecu driven engines.
As it happens, I've just bought a Grandland 1.2 petrol, and to be fair, it isn't a bad old bus, but a JCW it ain't.
I got mine in desperation after two bad experiences with the local Renault dealer. It does do some pretty random stuff with the onboard computer and infotainment unit, like changing units from imperial to metric on its own, and the latest, the radio won't switch off.
Your daughters doesn't sound wet belt related, as it started and ran after stopping, just checking, it has got petrol in it, hasn't it? Occams razor and all that!!
As it happens, I've just bought a Grandland 1.2 petrol, and to be fair, it isn't a bad old bus, but a JCW it ain't.
I got mine in desperation after two bad experiences with the local Renault dealer. It does do some pretty random stuff with the onboard computer and infotainment unit, like changing units from imperial to metric on its own, and the latest, the radio won't switch off.
Your daughters doesn't sound wet belt related, as it started and ran after stopping, just checking, it has got petrol in it, hasn't it? Occams razor and all that!!
Likely the belt, it may run once for 20 secs after snapping and would spin afterwards without starting, of course it would have made any damage much worse, but it would have been toast anyway.
Instead of scrapping a recon engine and move it on may be more cost effective in the long run.
Instead of scrapping a recon engine and move it on may be more cost effective in the long run.
A500leroy said:
Likely the belt, it may run once for 20 secs after snapping and would spin afterwards without starting, of course it would have made any damage much worse, but it would have been toast anyway.
Instead of scrapping a recon engine and move it on may be more cost effective in the long run.
Sorry, but completely wrong!Instead of scrapping a recon engine and move it on may be more cost effective in the long run.
IF the belt snaps, carnage happens INSTANTLY and the engine stops for ever.
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