Engine Question (Pretty Quick)
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Quality,thats how,Honda as a passion for building proper engines that only other manafacturers can dream of(not including other jap manafacturers)and remember they have been doing it for years,yes sometimes the S2000 lump does blow,i would put some of that down to poor maintainance and numbscull owners,it is a racing engine at the end of the day that needs respect and care,fact is Hondas engines are quality engineering at its best.
That Daddy said:
Quality,thats how,Honda as a passion for building proper engines that only other manafacturers can dream of(not including other jap manafacturers)and remember they have been doing it for years,yes sometimes the S2000 lump does blow,i would put some of that down to poor maintainance and numbscull owners,it is a racing engine at the end of the day that needs respect and care,fact is Hondas engines are quality engineering at its best.
On the other hand....why not just use a turbocharger. More power, more torque, and less stress......
I know which one I'd take everytime.
stevieturbo said:
That Daddy said:
Quality,thats how,Honda as a passion for building proper engines that only other manafacturers can dream of(not including other jap manafacturers)and remember they have been doing it for years,yes sometimes the S2000 lump does blow,i would put some of that down to poor maintainance and numbscull owners,it is a racing engine at the end of the day that needs respect and care,fact is Hondas engines are quality engineering at its best.
On the other hand....why not just use a turbocharger. More power, more torque, and less stress......
I know which one I'd take everytime.
Turbo lag. Superchargers are the way forward.
lightningghost said:
stevieturbo said:
That Daddy said:
Quality,thats how,Honda as a passion for building proper engines that only other manafacturers can dream of(not including other jap manafacturers)and remember they have been doing it for years,yes sometimes the S2000 lump does blow,i would put some of that down to poor maintainance and numbscull owners,it is a racing engine at the end of the day that needs respect and care,fact is Hondas engines are quality engineering at its best.
On the other hand....why not just use a turbocharger. More power, more torque, and less stress......
I know which one I'd take everytime.
Turbo lag. Superchargers are the way forward.
yes, linears the ticket,who wants lag then kaboom everything.
Edited by that daddy on Tuesday 16th January 21:22
that daddy said:
yes but thats cheating,have you heard one of these things rev.But yes i know lots of stress expensive components etc.
Yes, and to be quite honest, I think they soud terrible.
All that induction noise, ye the car doesnt go anywhere.
if that noise was a sign of say 5-600bhp, maybe I'd be a little impressed, but a paltry 240bhp....doesnt do anything for me
If thats all its going to do, it could at least do it sedately.
As for lag....yes it can still be there, but seriously, with modern turbochargers on a mild power build, lag is minimal.
Supercharger technology is moving ahead well though. Perhaps some OE manufacturers will pick up on it soon and help it further.
stevieturbo said:
that daddy said:
yes but thats cheating,have you heard one of these things rev.But yes i know lots of stress expensive components etc.
Yes, and to be quite honest, I think they soud terrible.
I guess you are no fan of bike engines either? Or a Ford BDA screaming away in the front of a Mk2 Escort?
MR2Mike said:
stevieturbo said:
that daddy said:
yes but thats cheating,have you heard one of these things rev.But yes i know lots of stress expensive components etc.
Yes, and to be quite honest, I think they soud terrible.
I guess you are no fan of bike engines either? Or a Ford BDA screaming away in the front of a Mk2 Escort?
Very different sounds...
Some bikes sound ok, but again, Im not a fan.... From an engineering/mechanical point of view, bike engines are cool though.
Maybe its just the ricer crowd Im hearing, with loud exhausts, big induction pipes. But IMO, any I have heard, just sound pathetic.
Maybe its just because they arent backed up by any performance.
And IMO, you cant compare the sound of some of the old classic rally cars, with a modern v-tec. They do not sound the same.
lightningghost said:
stevieturbo said:
That Daddy said:
Quality,thats how,Honda as a passion for building proper engines that only other manafacturers can dream of(not including other jap manafacturers)and remember they have been doing it for years,yes sometimes the S2000 lump does blow,i would put some of that down to poor maintainance and numbscull owners,it is a racing engine at the end of the day that needs respect and care,fact is Hondas engines are quality engineering at its best.
On the other hand....why not just use a turbocharger. More power, more torque, and less stress......
I know which one I'd take everytime.
Turbo lag. Superchargers are the way forward.
God no, Even BMW have done away with the super charger on the mini, Turbo = power for nothing!
Super's need power to run them!
lightningghost said:
Turbo lag. Superchargers are the way forward.
Someone will have already said it but I want stick the knife into baby cuz: Superchargers do give an instant/proportional power increase up to point the pressure relief kicks in, but they also drain power out of the engine to drive them and their upper boost limit is lower than a turbo. A turbo uses "free" energy to drive it which would otherwise be lost out of the exhaust.
To get big power and fuel effiencey multiple small turbo's are the way to go.
LG 
Back on topic: The S2K engine is a master piece, and I'm certain the ones that have blown up have done so due to neglect or misuse. It's fairly well known that Honda have nearly never had to payout warranty on the VTEC engine (or at least the B series). Honda don't use forced induction, cos they don't have to.
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