mk2 escort cosworth problem
mk2 escort cosworth problem
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leon.rs

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5 posts

240 months

Tuesday 10th April 2007
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hi I have a mk2 escort witch I have just converted into cossy powered. the engine had been stood for a couple of years I have renewed the phase sensor crankshaft sensor new cambelts leads cap and rotor arm. it has good compresion on all pistons the injectors were stuck but freed them. I got it started for about 30 seconds then it cut out. I managed to start it again after a lot of turning over it ran about 2000-2500 revs for about 30 seconds again. so I tryed to start it again, terned it over for about a minite or so and nothink. I checked the engine and there was a lot of fuel ontop of the pistons and a lot of fuel in the sump with the oil. has eny one had this problem before if so can you please help.

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

268 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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You need to pin out the harness and change the oil. Use cheap and thick oil then change it again when the engine runs properly.

Zad

12,875 posts

253 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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It could be that the injectors have now stuck open and are continually pumping fuel in, flooding the engine. If you have any test equipment, try cranking it with the fuel pump off and see if the injectors are getting pulses or are continually on. Also consider getting the injectors checked professionally.

stevieturbo

17,832 posts

264 months

Wednesday 11th April 2007
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If there is that much fuel in there....the plugs are obviously soaked, and hence scrap.

Renew them.

leon.rs

Original Poster:

5 posts

240 months

Thursday 12th April 2007
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I got hold of cosworth themselves and it"s the injectors have stuck open. hopefully this is the end of the problem cheers,

leon.rs

Original Poster:

5 posts

240 months

Tuesday 17th April 2007
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changed all the injectors got a good pulse still flooding I am thinking of setting fire to it.

I Cooke

75 posts

269 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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If you are unlucky you could be looking at bent rods too!

stevieturbo

17,832 posts

264 months

Wednesday 18th April 2007
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leon.rs said:
changed all the injectors got a good pulse still flooding I am thinking of setting fire to it.


Unless you changed the plugs for new ones after the soaking......the chances of them sparking and trying to start, are virtually nil...

And so you will only soak the plugs yet again.

Do you have a decent spark ?
Have you confirmed firing order ? ( ie leads in correct place )
Have you confirmed ignition timing when cranking is at a sensible figure ?
Do you have decent compression ?


All basic stuff.

If all of the above are good ( and with good plugs ), then even if it was massively overfuelling, it would still start.

Zad

12,875 posts

253 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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In the olde days of carburettors and distributors with points, my dad's Cortinas used to fail on especially cold mornings, resulting in very wet plugs. The trick then was to dry them as far as possible, then hold them over a gas flame to heat the ceramic up and drive off the petrol that had soaked in. Crank the engine with no fuel supply (usually holding the throttle to the floor will do this) and with the plugs out should dry the cylinders fairly well.

Bearing in mind that the late 70s / early 80s weren't quite such a health and safety conscious era...

I would think that if you refit the injectors with no electrical connections and they are still pouring fuel in, then its still the injectors. Unless maybe the petrol is massively overpressure?

leon.rs

Original Poster:

5 posts

240 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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all the injectors are good. if I start the engine it will start and then flood if I take of the leads to the injectors and then turn it over again it will turn over a couple of times then start up and run till it"s burnt of the fuel in the pistons. can it be the pressure regulator.

stevieturbo

17,832 posts

264 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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leon.rs said:
all the injectors are good. if I start the engine it will start and then flood if I take of the leads to the injectors and then turn it over again it will turn over a couple of times then start up and run till it"s burnt of the fuel in the pistons. can it be the pressure regulator.


Have you checked fuel pressure ?

Does the fuel pump sound excessively loud ?

I guess its possible if the FPR was totally jammed shut.....but still unlikely it would flood that much.

Have you checked all the things I said ?

Ign timing ? etc etc

Cam timing ?

cyberface

12,214 posts

274 months

Thursday 19th April 2007
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Bet it's an electrical / ECU problem. Something as silly as a sensor or plug fitted the wrong way. Always the biggest aggro with engine transplants.

stevieturbo

17,832 posts

264 months

Friday 20th April 2007
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Are the ecu and injectors even matched ?


I assumed this was a running engine, that developed a problem.

Not a newly started engine on a project ?

turbospud

522 posts

255 months

Saturday 21st April 2007
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swap the map sensor plug throttle one both the same plug,when crossed over it does what your describing,wrong voltages to the ecu,but will run

leon.rs

Original Poster:

5 posts

240 months

Friday 27th April 2007
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it"s a newly started engine in a project car.