Who makes the best coolant/oil hoses?
Who makes the best coolant/oil hoses?
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Mark300zx

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1,446 posts

274 months

Saturday 1st August 2009
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I have the engine out of my car at the moment and want to replace the coolant and oil feed hoses.
They are a bugger to replace with engine back in and want to get the best to save future hassle, so which brand should I get?

mrmr96

13,736 posts

226 months

Saturday 1st August 2009
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Samco seem to be universally popular.

stevieturbo

17,931 posts

269 months

Saturday 1st August 2009
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Depends on what is available, and what hoses exactly you are after.

Samco, SFS, Viper, Roose, there are lots of makes of perfectly fine hoses.


There are some ebay hoses made in whothefkknowswhere too, whichc may be dodgy.

Mark300zx

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274 months

Saturday 1st August 2009
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The internal diameters I am after are between 6-8mm for oil and coolant, they also run very close to exhaust and turbo so must be able to withstand a fair amount of radiated heat!

GreenV8S

30,998 posts

306 months

Saturday 1st August 2009
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If you use silicone hose for oil make sure it's the oil/petrol resistant fluorosilicone not normal silicone. Silicone will resist high temperatures better than rubber but it's still a good idea to slip an insulating sleeve over it to keep the heat away. Plenty of places will sell insulated sleeving made from fibreglass cloth with a reflective metal surface.

stevieturbo

17,931 posts

269 months

Saturday 1st August 2009
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Mark300zx said:
The internal diameters I am after are between 6-8mm for oil and coolant, they also run very close to exhaust and turbo so must be able to withstand a fair amount of radiated heat!
That does change matters slightly.

What exactly are these pipes doing ? They seem very small.

I can only assume one is an oil supply to the turbos, in which case obviously it needs to be suitable for high pressure oil also.
The norm is a steel braided type hose.

You're best to route pipes away from heat as much as possible, or introduce heat shielding of some sort.

Mark300zx

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Saturday 1st August 2009
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Apologies the hoses will not be carrying oil, only coolant and actuator feeds!

stevieturbo

17,931 posts

269 months

Saturday 1st August 2009
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Mark300zx said:
Apologies the hoses will not be carrying oil, only coolant and actuator feeds!
Very small pipes for coolant.

Normal silicon style hoses will be fine for coolant, if designed for that purpose. Or you could spend a little extra and opt for fuel or oil rated hose which would be tougher stuff.


As for the actuator, I see no real reason not to just use small diam fuel line or similar.

The think silcon style hose in small diameter many people use for boost/vac, is pure dung, and splits very easily.
I'd never use it anywhere important. In fact, I wouldnt even use it somewhere unimportant.

Mark300zx

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Saturday 1st August 2009
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So I presume high pressure fuel line would be optimal for coolant feeds, would this be able to handle the heat?

BTW they are coolant hoses for a turbo.

stevieturbo

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269 months

Saturday 1st August 2009
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Mark300zx said:
So I presume high pressure fuel line would be optimal for coolant feeds, would this be able to handle the heat?

BTW they are coolant hoses for a turbo.
Just exactly how hot do you intend to get them ??

IMO there are very few hoses available that will withstand a lot of radiated heat. Whether braided or conventional.

It would be a very bad setup though where hoses are routed so close, they would be in a dangerous position. Ive always been able to get enough distance for them to be safe. It doesnt take much really.

If it wil be that bad, have your manifold insulated as well.

Mark300zx

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274 months

Sunday 2nd August 2009
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The turbo/manifold causes the problem, the manifold does not lend itself to wrapping and the only option would be some sort of thermal coating.

The setup is stock and replacing pipe in the stock location, just trying to minimise the risk of replacing the hose in the future when the engine is back in.

Pigeon

18,535 posts

268 months

Sunday 2nd August 2009
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Can you not make the thermally-compromised sections of the pipe run out of rigid steel or copper pipe?

Mark300zx

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Sunday 2nd August 2009
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Pigeon said:
Can you not make the thermally-compromised sections of the pipe run out of rigid steel or copper pipe?
I could, but the sections of hose are less than 6 inches and you are also doubling the number of joins.

stevieturbo

17,931 posts

269 months

Sunday 2nd August 2009
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If everything is standard, whats the problem ? Wont the standard hoses be fine ?

Mark300zx

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274 months

Monday 3rd August 2009
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The standard hoses degrade quickly on the stock car and this car is tuned slightly, and would like to improve the reliability above the stock item.

lenientism

223 posts

203 months

Monday 3rd August 2009
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Let's see whether this is applicable. I heard of the use of metal pipe can perform this function in case the original rubber pipe is too short after several cut offs. The standard rubber pipes are still used to connect the metal pipe into the hose on engine and radiator. At least there is less contact between the hot water and rubber pipes...

sk7ine man

604 posts

213 months

Tuesday 4th August 2009
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Pirtek are good