Siemens deka injectors
Siemens deka injectors
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kenmorton

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271 posts

274 months

Sunday 7th March 2010
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Does anyone know where I can buy some siemens deka 60 lbs injectors? Can find lots of places selling them in Australia and USA but would prefere a UK outlet purely for warenty/return if necesary.

stevieturbo

17,986 posts

271 months

Sunday 7th March 2010
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Most tuning places will sell them. Although they will be cheaper elsewhere.

Chances of needing a warranty issue are very slim.


How many do you need ? Ive a new set here that I bought and never used.

DTA who make my ecu sell them...but they really arent the cheapest place to buy.

kenmorton

Original Poster:

271 posts

274 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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Jeeees that was a fast reply!

I need 6 thanks.

stevieturbo

17,986 posts

271 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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sorry...only have four.. well apart from the ones in my car lol

Do Consider Racetronx, or Five-o motorsport etc from the US.


Their prices are good.

I'd be surprised if there arent tuners on egay selling them from the UK though too.

fatjon

2,298 posts

237 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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I buy them in the USA from Marren fuel injection, www.injector.com
Mainly because I really object to European companys ripping me off for twice what they sell the same product for in the USA despite them being made in Germany. Going rate seems to be $236 (£150) for 4 in the US and £250 for 4 over here. With the duty and a bit of shipping you don't save much but there is a principle involved for me. Have used dozens of them and never had a dud yet, they are genuine Siemens injectors.

stevieturbo

17,986 posts

271 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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Nobody likes being ripped off for sure. But whilst Ive bought plenty from the US myself, it can be good to support local business if they are offering excellent support, even if it does cost a little extra

I currently use 16 of them. 8 shorty's and 8 full size. I admit I bought the full size ones from DTA, but that was purely as I needed them yesterday !! You cant get that sort of service from the US.

I did buy the shorty's from Racetronix though, as was in no hurry.

I had all of them fow tested after a little incident a year or two ago. I was surprised that for "flow matched" sets....they were rather lacking in matched flow.
Which was a slight concern I have to say. This did apply to both sets, not just one.

I mixed and matched as best as possible so the pairs were evenly matched. ( I cannot trim individual injectors on my setup within the ecu )


Steve_D

13,801 posts

282 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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Bought my 80lb injectors from Ballenger motorsport in the US.
Searched long and hard and they were the best price...still painful though.

Steve

kenmorton

Original Poster:

271 posts

274 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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So how far off were the matched set? Racetronic quote matched to 1% but charge $60 for the service.

stevieturbo

17,986 posts

271 months

Monday 8th March 2010
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Some were around 5% although cant recall specifically.

That was tested at 30% and 50% duty cycles from what I remember. Once they got to about 80% they were almost going static at that point.

I was quite surprised really.

The guy who tested them for me didnt write down actual flow figures, just flow variances between them all.

I think a lot of the flow mathcning claims...are based on the injector at 100%. Which isnt perhaps the most reliable method, as you should never be pushing them that hard !

stevesingo

5,024 posts

246 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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What are these injectors like a low pulse width?

I was thinking of using them but worried about idle stability.

Steve

stevieturbo

17,986 posts

271 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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They are excellent. Thats why i chose them.

I'd say they would even be fine on a small 1300cc engine etc

kenmorton

Original Poster:

271 posts

274 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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So I may as well not bother with the flowmatching and get them tested over here and just program in individual trims for each one.

stevieturbo

17,986 posts

271 months

Tuesday 9th March 2010
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I guess that depends on how they do actually flow match them.

I know my set werent great when tested here in the UK as mentoned


How much fuel flow do you need ?

There may be other sources in the US, that do offer a better service when it comes to injectors. The guy that tested mine may sell some too, although he is more Subaru orientated than anything.

He sells flow matched sets, with details of any trims required, should there be variances if matching isnt possible.

Try Yawpower in the US http://www.injectordynamics.com/, or FIC http://fuelinjectorconnection.com/shop/

alimechanic

2 posts

193 months

Thursday 25th March 2010
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Hi new to the forum, I have several Siemens deka injectors but im not sure about any details except the resistance which is 12.5 Ohms and the numbers on it which arent helpful at all apart from the renault insignia, picture included might help indetify. How do I find out what the flow rate and turn on turn off times, is there a machine or a shop that can tell me?

stevieturbo

17,986 posts

271 months

Thursday 25th March 2010
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Send them away to have them flow tested.

Or what vehicle are they from ? if its an OE vehicle, then chances are they are quite small.

eliot

11,989 posts

278 months

Friday 26th March 2010
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My 60's are badged as Mototrons, which actually have siemens on the side of them.
The spec is here:
http://www.racetronix.com/images/injectors/L107.pd...

alimechanic

2 posts

193 months

Friday 26th March 2010
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who does flow testing please?

stevieturbo

17,986 posts

271 months

Friday 26th March 2010
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http://lateralperformance.co.uk/section.php/11/1/i...

Is one place.

I believe Dave Walker from Emerald also offers the service