Royal purple ears gearboxes!
Royal purple ears gearboxes!
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neiljohnson

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11,298 posts

233 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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I've been looking for gear oil for my in laws m5 & have come across a number of concerns relating in the very high sulphur content of rp (hence its horrid smell) compared with other oils. Sulpher eats through metal over a period of time especially bronze which is used in gearboxes.
The claim of the high sulphur content has been confirmed by the USA governing body although anyone who has smelt it can confirm it hehe
yikes

neiljohnson

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11,298 posts

233 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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Eats even! rolleyes

richie slow

7,565 posts

190 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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Our gearboxes are quite capable of eating themselves anyway.

I never believe American authors, especially when it's posted on the internet.

I think I'll carry on risking it wink

neiljohnson

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11,298 posts

233 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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richie slow said:
Our gearboxes are quite capable of eating themselves anyway.

I never believe American authors, especially when it's posted on the internet.

I think I'll carry on risking it wink
While I tend to take anything American with a pinch of salt it is a fact that rp uses over 4 times the amount of sulphur than other oils & this can be very bad for gearboxes.

donk r8

2,755 posts

222 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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neiljohnson said:
richie slow said:
Our gearboxes are quite capable of eating themselves anyway.

I never believe American authors, especially when it's posted on the internet.

I think I'll carry on risking it



While I tend to take anything American with a pinch of salt it is a fact that rp uses over 4 times the amount of sulphur than other oils & this can be very bad for gearboxes.


As Richie said Neil, it may well be right but the boxes eat themselves before the oil get anywhere near..yikes

snowwolf

11,503 posts

201 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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Must admit it does smell bad

neiljohnson

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11,298 posts

233 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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donk r8 said:
As Richie said Neil, it may well be right but the boxes eat themselves before the oil get anywhere near..yikes
In which case they need all the help they can get wink

snowwolf

11,503 posts

201 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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neiljohnson said:
In which case they need all the help they can get wink
Wonder what other gearbox oils are about?

neiljohnson

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11,298 posts

233 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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snowwolf said:
Wonder what other gearbox oils are about?
Lots!
Silkoline & Fuchs (think they may be the same) are highly rated as are millers they are all proper ester based oils that do not use the sulphur base like rp.
Castrol seem to be the manufacturers choice

jameshsv

5,844 posts

186 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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My box never smells.

anonymous-user

80 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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The RP rear diff oil smells bad too. I changed it recently because it didn't seem to work too well in my car. I replaced it with some Comma LSD oil. I haven't disposed of the RP stuff yet, it came out looking blue and is still in a drip tray, the whole garage stinks of it!

Do Monkfish still recommend it?


VinceM

1,906 posts

164 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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GSE said:
The RP rear diff oil smells bad too. I changed it recently because it didn't seem to work too well in my car. I replaced it with some Comma LSD oil. I haven't disposed of the RP stuff yet, it came out looking blue and is still in a drip tray, the whole garage stinks of it!

Do Monkfish still recommend it?

Which one did you use, and how did it work? Is the car OK with it?

snowwolf

11,503 posts

201 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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jameshsv said:
My box never smells.
LOL

007 VXR

64,187 posts

213 months

Sunday 12th May 2013
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snowwolf said:
jameshsv said:
My box never smells.
LOL
biglaugh i smell BS laugh

anonymous-user

80 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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VinceM said:
Which one did you use, and how did it work? Is the car OK with it?
Here is the problem I had when the diff had Royal Purple + slip modifier in it:

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

I replaced it with some off the shelf Comma LSD oil. I can't remember the spec but I still have the bottles, I'll post the spec later. Since the oil has been changed the LSD operation is much smoother. The clunking and excessive locking up has gone. The rear wheels seem to gripping ok but I haven't really tried it in anger yet. With the RP stuff in it, the car had become almost undriveable.

monkfish1

12,292 posts

250 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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GSE said:
VinceM said:


Which one did you use, and how did it work? Is the car OK with it?


Here is the problem I had when the diff had Royal Purple + slip modifier in it:

www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=69&t=1033579&i=40&mid=33963&nmt=Kaaz+vs+truetrac+diff

I replaced it with some off the shelf Comma LSD oil. I can't remember the spec but I still have the bottles, I'll post the spec later. Since the oil has been changed the LSD operation is much smoother. The clunking and excessive locking up has gone. The rear wheels seem to gripping ok but I haven't really tried it in anger yet. With the RP stuff in it, the car had become almost undriveable.


You sure it was the RP?. If it had modifier as well, then it was probably the Redline stuff we used to use before the RP became available with the right blend.

anonymous-user

80 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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monkfish1 said:
You sure it was the RP?. If it had modifier as well, then it was probably the Redline stuff we used to use before the RP became available with the right blend.
I thought it was RP that went in it, may be it was Redline? May be the diff modifier you sent me wasn't compatible with whatever was in it. All I know is, the old oil came out looking completely blue in colour, and stinks like hell!

monkfish1

12,292 posts

250 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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GSE said:
monkfish1 said:


You sure it was the RP?. If it had modifier as well, then it was probably the Redline stuff we used to use before the RP became available with the right blend.


I thought it was RP that went in it, may be it was Redline? May be the diff modifier you sent me wasn't compatible with whatever was in it. All I know is, the old oil came out looking completely blue in colour, and stinks like hell!


Blue is the redline stuff. (RP is actually a clear purple) Works well to begin with, but does seem to change over time. Which you have confirmed. Found the RP to be more stable in the longterm.

Behold81

2,931 posts

195 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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monkfish1 said:
Blue is the redline stuff. (RP is actually a clear purple) Works well to begin with, but does seem to change over time. Which you have confirmed. Found the RP to be more stable in the longterm.
My redline is an amber colour.

monkfish1

12,292 posts

250 months

Monday 13th May 2013
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Behold81 said:
monkfish1 said:


Blue is the redline stuff. (RP is actually a clear purple) Works well to begin with, but does seem to change over time. Which you have confirmed. Found the RP to be more stable in the longterm.


My redline is an amber colour.


Different grade oil then.