Need your opinion really quick! LS3 vs LS7
Need your opinion really quick! LS3 vs LS7
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djwilk

Original Poster:

1,693 posts

200 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Hi,
As per the title.

I can either buy a new LS3 crate for £5.2k or a used 15k mile (allegedly) LS7 for £6k.

Now, that is a good question what to do...

A few important factors:

- will my existing LS3 ancillaries including A/C, power steering, ECU, starter, alternator, etc fit and work?
- will LS3 power flow headers fit?
- is the LS7 cam optimal, or can I do better?
- would a cam that I have been discussing for LS3 (XER273HR) fit into LS7?
- LS7 comes with a dry sump AFAIR? Is it expensive to convert it to Wet sump or simply add the missing items?

Application fror VXR8. I am exctied, but tell me what you think.

S800VXR

5,877 posts

231 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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From a purely aesthetic POV its LS7 all day for me! Think that would make you the only 7ltr VXR8 out there, worth loads of pub points! wink

mikeyb1987

2,358 posts

185 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Isn't Ringram running a stoker in his?

mikeyb1987

2,358 posts

185 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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The LS7 runs 1.8 ratio rockers, so that may screw your cam choice.

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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I'd say LS3 with a tasty cam. Simpler, newer and more power.

What about this? http://shop.partsworldperformance.com/ls376-525-v8...

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 10th June 20:30

ARAF

20,759 posts

254 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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If you can get the LS7 down to £5k (that's approx. 50% of new price) then I'd take a punt on it, if it is genuinely a 15k mile engine.

Not sure how much will need changing though. The engine and ancillaries are assembled under the assumption that the steering column is on the left...

djwilk

Original Poster:

1,693 posts

200 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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wormus said:
I'd say LS3 with a tasty cam. Simpler, newer and more power.

What about this? http://shop.partsworldperformance.com/ls376-525-v8...

Edited by wormus on Tuesday 10th June 20:30
It was my first choice, but the ASA cam is not going to be liveable with...

anonymous-user

85 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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LSA crate engine?

djwilk

Original Poster:

1,693 posts

200 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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wormus said:
LSA crate engine?
I am capped to £6k all in.

ARAF

20,759 posts

254 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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wormus said:
LSA crate engine?
The US LSA won't fit under the scuttle on a VXR8.

jonnM

1,102 posts

170 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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If it's a hassle free install, then cammed LS7 would be my choice.

With a 230/240 it would drive like stock but still give 450-ish at the wheel. Nice smile

ringram

14,702 posts

279 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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It will cost you too much to retrofit IMO. You need all the dry sump plumbing and reservoir etc.
Add to that the LS7 crank is longer and the accessories probably wont line up. Crank is longer for vacuum pump for dry sump etc.
But aside from the sump its a drop in. All sensors etc should bolt up.

As mentioned ls7 is 505bhp rated, though torque is pretty stout too. It also rev to 7200 and runs titanium rods, valves etc..

There was an HSC 427 so you can get it to fit without too much trouble. But it will cost you smile

mikeyb1987

2,358 posts

185 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Probably a daft question, but would the LS7 titanium rods fit an LS2?

ArnieVXR

2,458 posts

214 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Wet sump conversions are relatively cheap IIRC. I'd be concerned about how hard that LS7's been driven, if it's not a straight pull from a Corvette. People only buy these aftermarket to thrash them on the track.

djwilk

Original Poster:

1,693 posts

200 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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It came out from a written off 2009 Z06 with 22k kms on it.

The guy is offering the engine together with the dry sump and plumbing + reservoir.

ArnieVXR

2,458 posts

214 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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mikeyb1987 said:
Probably a daft question, but would the LS7 titanium rods fit an LS2?
No...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c5-tech/1891231-ls...

ArnieVXR

2,458 posts

214 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Accessory drive kit listed on eBay is for LS3 or LS7, so maybe the parts will line up

stevieturbo

18,104 posts

278 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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If you have a restricted budget, then stick with the LS3.

You can bet if you move to something that isnt a simple bolt in...you'll blow a lot more £££ trying to adapt it to your car.

djwilk

Original Poster:

1,693 posts

200 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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You guys are probably right. I didn't realise there was so much faffing about with ls7 swap.

mik_ok

1,580 posts

272 months

Tuesday 10th June 2014
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Ooh. I'd love an LS7 engined '8, and obviously it does work since the W427 exists.

Other than that I can offer no useful input. No idea about ancillaries, engine mounts, ecu etc etc.

Worth a question on a US or Oz forum?

Worth calling HSV and asking??