supercharger cooling
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VXR HEED

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60 posts

150 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Hi folks,
Im looking for some advice I have a vxr monaro ls2 with a harrop 112sc
Im looking in to cooling my intake temp so i can do some track days without being scared of blowing it up. Im going to fit water/meth spray but I would ideally like to if a inter-cooler. What have people done with there's?
im a mechanic to trade so i will be doing it myself. If anyone have pics or dimension of there set up that would be much appreciated. Thanks




ARAF

20,759 posts

254 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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I think that the general consensus is that the price of the parts from Harrop to intercool a 112 is more than changing it for a different supercharger. frown

007 VXR

64,187 posts

218 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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ARAF said:
I think that the general consensus is that the price of the parts from Harrop to intercool a 112 is more than changing it for a different supercharger. frown
^^^ This, But talk to Roger at Monkfish, he may have something very soon that could help wink

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VXR HEED

Original Poster:

60 posts

150 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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yeah that's what ive heard that's why in looking at other ways to do it.

The Hofff

255 posts

202 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Isn't there an intake chiller kit (using the air con system) that can be installed or is this what we are talking about above, something PhilW has I think?

ARAF

20,759 posts

254 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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The Hofff said:
Isn't there an intake chiller kit (using the air con system) that can be installed or is this what we are talking about above, something PhilW has I think?
That's another, but I believe that chills the intercooler circuit, and that's what is missing.

007 VXR

64,187 posts

218 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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The Hofff said:
Isn't there an intake chiller kit (using the air con system) that can be installed or is this what we are talking about above, something PhilW has I think?
Thats what iam having fitted very soon. Roger working on it now smile

But you would need to ask roger for details.

VXR HEED

Original Poster:

60 posts

150 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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In looking at options for a intercooler I've seen that behold81 has fitted one to his car so there must be options

Xpuffin

9,209 posts

236 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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VXR HEED said:
In looking at options for a intercooler I've seen that behold81 has fitted one to his car so there must be options
Behold is running a centrifugal blower which requires an "inline" inter cooler similar to a turbo setup.
You need a valley inter cooler specific to the blower.

Behold81

2,931 posts

200 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Mine is easier to intercool as its a centri charger. Valley chargers need a charge cooler fitting to remove the high intake temps as the cooling has to be after compression. Water injection is the best option for £ to degree!


VXR HEED

Original Poster:

60 posts

150 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Ah I see. Every day is a school day. I was looking at buying a complete setup off a guy called Steve from fife he is on this forum he has a PWR set up with the magnuson 112 charger complete with intercooler and everything with it but it was on his vxr8 and to fit it I need a fitting kit to fit it to my car but because it runs off a shaft that goes to the front of the engine and we can't source the shaft I need. I'm screwed

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

238 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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VXR HEED said:
Ah I see. Every day is a school day. I was looking at buying a complete setup off a guy called Steve from fife he is on this forum he has a PWR set up with the magnuson 112 charger complete with intercooler and everything with it but it was on his vxr8 and to fit it I need a fitting kit to fit it to my car but because it runs off a shaft that goes to the front of the engine and we can't source the shaft I need. I'm screwed
The chargecooler runs off an electric pump not the engine, are you talking about the supercharger drive shaft? i would expect them to be the same on an ls2 regardless if its a monaro or vxr8 although if they are not they could well be interchangeable.

stevieturbo

18,104 posts

278 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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VXR HEED said:
Ah I see. Every day is a school day. I was looking at buying a complete setup off a guy called Steve from fife he is on this forum he has a PWR set up with the magnuson 112 charger complete with intercooler and everything with it but it was on his vxr8 and to fit it I need a fitting kit to fit it to my car but because it runs off a shaft that goes to the front of the engine and we can't source the shaft I need. I'm screwed
I think you'd need to clarify exactly what this person claims he has on the forum regarding PWR. It's maybe just an uprated water radiator or something.

Really your simplest, cheapest and easiest option is the water/meth injection.
As well as ensuring the actual air the engine breathes, is taken from a cold as possible source.

What sort of charge temperatures are you seeing at present ? What boost are you running ?

preciousmetal

3,373 posts

207 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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VXR HEED said:
Ah I see. Every day is a school day. I was looking at buying a complete setup off a guy called Steve from fife he is on this forum he has a PWR set up with the magnuson 112 charger complete with intercooler and everything with it but it was on his vxr8 and to fit it I need a fitting kit to fit it to my car but because it runs off a shaft that goes to the front of the engine and we can't source the shaft I need. I'm screwed
Steve from Fife doesn't have the SC VXR8 anymore. Its now down south biggrin

wav8

3,926 posts

179 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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preciousmetal said:
Steve from Fife doesn't have the SC VXR8 anymore. Its now down south biggrin
You English stole another good car.........that is one quick car good luck with the sale off it very well looked afterthumbup

preciousmetal

3,373 posts

207 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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wav8 said:
preciousmetal said:
Steve from Fife doesn't have the SC VXR8 anymore. Its now down south biggrin
You English stole another good car.........that is one quick car good luck with the sale off it very well looked afterthumbup
ha ha........ now now - you aren't independent yet biggrin

Yes its quick and sounds nice. There are some very nice examples north of the border. Yours inc.

Are you keeping yours now Wil

Kieranrob

611 posts

192 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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preciousmetal said:
Steve from Fife doesn't have the SC VXR8 anymore. Its now down south biggrin
He sold it!! I thought he was away to get a bigger charger fitted by Walkinshaw performance??

VXR HEED

Original Poster:

60 posts

150 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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Well that's news to me I'm offshore just now so I haven't spoke to him a couple of weeks.
I thought it was weird as they are both the same engine. All I know is its a magnuson 112 with PWR intercooler. I met him to have a look at it and were my charger runs direct of the back his has a shaft that runs up the side. But I don't suppose it matters now if he has sold it

captainblakk

269 posts

247 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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I've come across the shaft issue myself, even though both blowers were for a LS2, belt alignment was different, VXR8 being shorter by quite a bit, has corvette type spacing apparently, fix would either entail fitting of complete accessory drive off an R8 or other custom option I guess
Good luck whatever as I'm sure it's doable
Info courtesy of Roger at MF

MyM8V8

9,468 posts

226 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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ARAF said:
That's another, but I believe that chills the intercooler circuit, and that's what is missing.
Spat my coffee out!

(BTW Ian . My paint came today. Ta.)


OP. I'll try to be constructive. I had an NA set up (Cam and intake) that would pee over a 112 any day. If you must fit a charger either find a 122 second hand or dig deep and get a TVS2300.

Edited by MyM8V8 on Wednesday 25th June 17:50