VXR600 back up for sale (discussion)
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I noticed S600 VXR is back up for sale on Autotrader, seems to come up relatively frequently just lately.
I remember what happened to it a couple of years back and know that by all accounts the fish did a great job of putting it all back together and improving the safety and reliability of it, so I was wondering what people thought of it in terms of 'risk level'. Specifically, do you think it would now be safer than a 'standard' VXR500 in the sense that it would now be less likely to break anything major due to the improved supporting mods, despite it running over 100bhp more than a 500? And also, would 'de-tuning' it slightly improve things, so for example if the PSI was lowered in the supercharger would this further reduce the risk of anything going wrong, or is the engine and ancillaries now safe enough that it wouldn't make much difference and would be just as safe left with the current level of power?
Reason I'm asking is a have decided I'll be buying another Monaro probably at the end of this month/early next month, and it was my intention to buy a fairly standard LS2 model (albeit with a Wortec exhaust, that's essential as far as I'm concerned), but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least part-tempted by the lure of the extra power and that suupercharger noise! (my old Monaro was a VXR500 btw). Thing is for me I'm not massively concerned by running huge power, so if lowering the boost from the supercharger in the VXR600 would make it close to being as safe/reliable/risk free as a standard 'Ro (but obviously more faster than one otherwise not worth it
) then I'd be happy with that, and might consider buying something like this instead of a standard one. That said, I was hoping to not stretch quite as far as the current £15k asking price given that this will be a 3rd car for me, but I can be relatively flexible for the right car so nothing is set in stone yet.
What do you guys think? Opinions welcome!
I remember what happened to it a couple of years back and know that by all accounts the fish did a great job of putting it all back together and improving the safety and reliability of it, so I was wondering what people thought of it in terms of 'risk level'. Specifically, do you think it would now be safer than a 'standard' VXR500 in the sense that it would now be less likely to break anything major due to the improved supporting mods, despite it running over 100bhp more than a 500? And also, would 'de-tuning' it slightly improve things, so for example if the PSI was lowered in the supercharger would this further reduce the risk of anything going wrong, or is the engine and ancillaries now safe enough that it wouldn't make much difference and would be just as safe left with the current level of power?
Reason I'm asking is a have decided I'll be buying another Monaro probably at the end of this month/early next month, and it was my intention to buy a fairly standard LS2 model (albeit with a Wortec exhaust, that's essential as far as I'm concerned), but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least part-tempted by the lure of the extra power and that suupercharger noise! (my old Monaro was a VXR500 btw). Thing is for me I'm not massively concerned by running huge power, so if lowering the boost from the supercharger in the VXR600 would make it close to being as safe/reliable/risk free as a standard 'Ro (but obviously more faster than one otherwise not worth it
) then I'd be happy with that, and might consider buying something like this instead of a standard one. That said, I was hoping to not stretch quite as far as the current £15k asking price given that this will be a 3rd car for me, but I can be relatively flexible for the right car so nothing is set in stone yet.What do you guys think? Opinions welcome!
Thanks yes I might email S800 VXR (is that Roger?) for a chat if I do get to the point where I'm seriously considering buying it.
Gary - are you thinking of a different car? I'm reasonably sure the one you're thinking of is the one on ebay for sale in Chester, but as far as I know the £15k one on Autotrader is a different car (private sale). Unless I'm totally mistaken!
Gary - are you thinking of a different car? I'm reasonably sure the one you're thinking of is the one on ebay for sale in Chester, but as far as I know the £15k one on Autotrader is a different car (private sale). Unless I'm totally mistaken!
Moriascapula said:
I noticed S600 VXR is back up for sale on Autotrader, seems to come up relatively frequently just lately.
I remember what happened to it a couple of years back and know that by all accounts the fish did a great job of putting it all back together and improving the safety and reliability of it, so I was wondering what people thought of it in terms of 'risk level'. Specifically, do you think it would now be safer than a 'standard' VXR500 in the sense that it would now be less likely to break anything major due to the improved supporting mods, despite it running over 100bhp more than a 500? And also, would 'de-tuning' it slightly improve things, so for example if the PSI was lowered in the supercharger would this further reduce the risk of anything going wrong, or is the engine and ancillaries now safe enough that it wouldn't make much difference and would be just as safe left with the current level of power?
Reason I'm asking is a have decided I'll be buying another Monaro probably at the end of this month/early next month, and it was my intention to buy a fairly standard LS2 model (albeit with a Wortec exhaust, that's essential as far as I'm concerned), but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least part-tempted by the lure of the extra power and that suupercharger noise! (my old Monaro was a VXR500 btw). Thing is for me I'm not massively concerned by running huge power, so if lowering the boost from the supercharger in the VXR600 would make it close to being as safe/reliable/risk free as a standard 'Ro (but obviously more faster than one otherwise not worth it ) then I'd be happy with that, and might consider buying something like this instead of a standard one. That said, I was hoping to not stretch quite as far as the current £15k asking price given that this will be a 3rd car for me, but I can be relatively flexible for the right car so nothing is set in stone yet.
What do you guys think? Opinions welcome!
You do know it has an intercooled 122 on it?I remember what happened to it a couple of years back and know that by all accounts the fish did a great job of putting it all back together and improving the safety and reliability of it, so I was wondering what people thought of it in terms of 'risk level'. Specifically, do you think it would now be safer than a 'standard' VXR500 in the sense that it would now be less likely to break anything major due to the improved supporting mods, despite it running over 100bhp more than a 500? And also, would 'de-tuning' it slightly improve things, so for example if the PSI was lowered in the supercharger would this further reduce the risk of anything going wrong, or is the engine and ancillaries now safe enough that it wouldn't make much difference and would be just as safe left with the current level of power?
Reason I'm asking is a have decided I'll be buying another Monaro probably at the end of this month/early next month, and it was my intention to buy a fairly standard LS2 model (albeit with a Wortec exhaust, that's essential as far as I'm concerned), but I'd be lying if I said I wasn't at least part-tempted by the lure of the extra power and that suupercharger noise! (my old Monaro was a VXR500 btw). Thing is for me I'm not massively concerned by running huge power, so if lowering the boost from the supercharger in the VXR600 would make it close to being as safe/reliable/risk free as a standard 'Ro (but obviously more faster than one otherwise not worth it
) then I'd be happy with that, and might consider buying something like this instead of a standard one. That said, I was hoping to not stretch quite as far as the current £15k asking price given that this will be a 3rd car for me, but I can be relatively flexible for the right car so nothing is set in stone yet.What do you guys think? Opinions welcome!
It certainly doesn't need the boost lowering. Quite safe as it is. From an engine perspective, whilst it works ok, is it needs a bigger blower. But if you were happy with the power as it is, then it "should" be OK.
monkfish1 said:
You do know it has an intercooled 122 on it?
It certainly doesn't need the boost lowering. Quite safe as it is. From an engine perspective, whilst it works ok, is it needs a bigger blower. But if you were happy with the power as it is, then it "should" be OK.
That was going to be my reply. I saw the car at Monkfish, earlier in the year. While the engine build may have been less than ideal, it has stayed together for the last couple of years (which I will credit to Mark and Roger), so will more than likely stay together for a few years more. The car is not at fault, and what had happened can't be changed, but from what I understand the engine in it was built to take a lot more boost than a 122 can give.It certainly doesn't need the boost lowering. Quite safe as it is. From an engine perspective, whilst it works ok, is it needs a bigger blower. But if you were happy with the power as it is, then it "should" be OK.
If the car is being sold at a realistic price, I'd be interested.
I has a 402CI LS2 with 4" stroke. My stroked, supercharged motor blew up and I would now steer away from a 4" stroke on stock liners, just personal choice. Also the stock 3.622" stroke works better on a PD blower as you end up with too much torque that you don't need.
It should be OK but I wouldn't buy it and if I did I'd stick a centri on it and hope for the best!
I hate agreeing with Richard on general principle but if you don't want to spend too much, go for an LS2 with nice cam and intake.
It should be OK but I wouldn't buy it and if I did I'd stick a centri on it and hope for the best!
I hate agreeing with Richard on general principle but if you don't want to spend too much, go for an LS2 with nice cam and intake.
stevieturbo said:
stigmundfreud said:
Ask yourself why it keeps coming up for sale time and time again?
I'm sure this forum certainly doesnt help ! lolBTW not that you lot care but if things go to plan I will be in an LSx within 2 weeks
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