Recomended winter tyres??
Recomended winter tyres??
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FABr8

Original Poster:

19 posts

158 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Hi all,

Can anyone recommend good winter tyres for my R8 it's on standard 19s.

I will be driving it in Europe over the Christmas period and I know it's a legal requirement over there.

Any advise on this would be appreciated smile

Cheers.

ARAF

20,759 posts

254 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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I think you'll find that winter tyres are only a legal requirement for vehicles registered in each country where that is law. Visitors can still use show chains/socks.

FABr8

Original Poster:

19 posts

158 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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ARAF said:
I think you'll find that winter tyres are only a legal requirement for vehicles registered in each country where that is law. Visitors can still use show chains/socks.
Thanks for the info, I wasn't aware of that, in that case any good chains/socks that anyone knows of that fit the wheels ??

vxr2010

2,629 posts

190 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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I use kuhmo kw27 , but I only put them on if it actually snows as snow tyres are only really good in the snow on a normal wet road you have less grip , I have them on spare wheels in the boot , I have a set of Monaro alloys so I can fit on either vxr8 or Monaro

ARAF

20,759 posts

254 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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FABr8 said:
ARAF said:
I think you'll find that winter tyres are only a legal requirement for vehicles registered in each country where that is law. Visitors can still use show chains/socks.
Thanks for the info, I wasn't aware of that, in that case any good chains/socks that anyone knows of that fit the wheels ??
I stand corrected - for Germany

AA said:
If you're driving to one of Europe's winter sports destinations you need to be prepared for road conditions more severe than anything you would normally encounter at home.
The law in some countries requires residents to use winter tyres at certain times of the year or when conditions are appropriate but then permits visitors to drive on 'summer' tyres – fitted with snow chains when conditions or local signs dictate.
Winter tyres in Germany
The rules in Germany changed at the end of 2010 - regulations now require all passenger cars and motorbikes including vehicles from foreign countries to be fitted with winter tyres or all season tyres on all axles when conditions are wintery.

If your vehicle becomes stuck during the winter months because the tyres are unsuitable you will be liable to an on the spot fine in Germany. If the vehicle causes an obstruction and aggravation to other traffic, the fine may be doubled. You may also be prevented from continuing your journey.
I take that to mean you'll only get fined, if you get stuck.

stevieturbo

18,103 posts

278 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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If you are expecting to do a lot of miles where there will be adverse winter conditions, it would make sense to have proper tyres...and snow chain type devices as a backup.


FABr8

Original Poster:

19 posts

158 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Thanks for the replies, I am now more confused than when I first posted !?!

As I have no idea what the weather is going to be like over there I am not convinced to replace my tyres with a full set of winter ones, and as I will have a fairly full car I can't fill the boot with a set to change over too if the weather takes a turn for the worse.

But I do like the idea of a set of snow chains, but finding it really difficult to find a set to fit the size of the wheels.

Do any of you guys and girls have any experience with these, if so any recommendations ??

ARAF

20,759 posts

254 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Chains are okay on higher profile tyres, but I think you should look at snow socks.

Have a word with PAH250, as he got some for his old VXR8, a few years ago.

pah250 said:
Just got some of those snow socks for mine - with those on it'll probably grip better in the snow than an old landy can..... honest..... whistle

vxr2010

2,629 posts

190 months

Thursday 4th December 2014
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Camskill do snow tyres there not cheap but I woukd be tempted to use a smaller size any way , I have tried chains before they can be an issue to fit in the snow and can ruin tyres , snow socks I believe are for slower speed, tyres on the rear is prob best option , rear tyres grip wise are the same as a 4 x 4 with normal tyres

Sohlman

590 posts

285 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Having used winter tyres for the last 3 years I can say they are fantastic. They work better than summer tyres from 7 degrees and below and with a good branded make they are pretty good up to 12 degrees. Above this they notisable drop off. I have had them fitted now to the entire family fleet of cars. I have just bought a vxr and have just bought a spare set of rims and winter tyres. A great make is vredstein and Pirelli sotozerro work well. Buying via the uk is heinously expensive, but I bought a set of 4 vredstein winters for £596 delivered from oponeo. My local tyre dealer wanted £300 each.! That was for 245/35/19's

You will not believe how good they are until you drive with them. Icy snowy roads just seem like a normal wet road. When the car does break away it grabs rather than floats making controlling a dodgy situation far easier and safer. Stopping the car on ice and snow is drama less. When we had that snowy winter I was driving around 4x4's that were stuck.

They have various technologies in them including very soft tyres with a higher rubber content. Different tread patterns that fire snow out and ips that give a suction affect on ice. They are slightly noisier, they wear better on cold conditions, but will wear more in warmer conditions. As they are designed to clear snow and slush they are less good at dealing with standing water, but not noticeable. Speed rating is also a little lower so you will have to keep to 170mph.

Hope this helps, but as far as I am concerned they are a no brainer. When spring comes get the summer tyres back on


Sohlman

590 posts

285 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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vxr2010 said:
Camskill do snow tyres there not cheap but I woukd be tempted to use a smaller size any way , I have tried chains before they can be an issue to fit in the snow and can ruin tyres , snow socks I believe are for slower speed, tyres on the rear is prob best option , rear tyres grip wise are the same as a 4 x 4 with normal tyres
Don't put them on rears only. You might be able to start, but that won't help you to steer or brake.

Sarge 4x4

2,371 posts

236 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Did someone mention "WINTER TYRES" Ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo do love a bit of "RUBBER".

If anyone needs help with tyre choice I am more than happy to help. wink;););)


stevieturbo

18,103 posts

278 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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It's all very well saying chains or socks...on driven wheels.

That will get you going, may not help so much with stopping or steering though.

Oponeo lists pretty cheap tyres, I ordered some the other day and struggling to understand their 48hr delivery

Ordered Monday and still no tyres here, which seems strange. In fact according to their info, they were only picked up 48hrs after I ordered. Which isnt really the same thing

bimbleuk

156 posts

256 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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I'm using the KW23 on my daily motor and they're less of a snow tyre than the KW27 which have large spaced squidgy blocks!

Yes I've noticed that at 15 deg (when I fist put them on in Sept.) they started to feel soft with lateral movement especially in the rear on my FWD car. Conversely they've lost that squidgyness as the temps have fallen to near freezing and have maintained a high level of grip. I'm actually looking forward to some snow to see how they perform.

What I can't comment on is how they would last on a heavier RWD car with 3-4 more times the power when not being driven in very cold weather.

Edited by bimbleuk on Friday 5th December 13:30

Steve_T

6,356 posts

303 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Hello all,

Been lurking for a while on this forum although on PH for a good while. I'm also considering some winter tyres for our CV8 as I think the tyres are getting past it and having spoken to Roger I plan for some MPSS shod 19s for the car next year.

I found this review: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2014-AutoBild...

Given it rains rather a lot here, I'm thinking of fitting the Continental 850Ps. What do you think?

Cheers,
Steve

ARAF

20,759 posts

254 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Steve_T said:
Hello all,

Been lurking for a while on this forum although on PH for a good while. I'm also considering some winter tyres for our CV8 as I think the tyres are getting past it and having spoken to Roger I plan for some MPSS shod 19s for the car next year.

I found this review: http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2014-AutoBild...

Given it rains rather a lot here, I'm thinking of fitting the Continental 850Ps. What do you think?

Cheers,
Steve
Speak with Sarge 4x4. He can't advertise himself on here, but he has a tyre business near Reigate, and has always seen forum members right.

http://www.reigate-tyres.co.uk/

Steve_T

6,356 posts

303 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Perfect, cheers!

FABr8

Original Poster:

19 posts

158 months

Friday 5th December 2014
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Sohlman said:
Having used winter tyres for the last 3 years I can say they are fantastic. They work better than summer tyres from 7 degrees and below and with a good branded make they are pretty good up to 12 degrees. Above this they notisable drop off. I have had them fitted now to the entire family fleet of cars. I have just bought a vxr and have just bought a spare set of rims and winter tyres. A great make is vredstein and Pirelli sotozerro work well. Buying via the uk is heinously expensive, but I bought a set of 4 vredstein winters for £596 delivered from oponeo. My local tyre dealer wanted £300 each.! That was for 245/35/19's

You will not believe how good they are until you drive with them. Icy snowy roads just seem like a normal wet road. When the car does break away it grabs rather than floats making controlling a dodgy situation far easier and safer. Stopping the car on ice and snow is drama less. When we had that snowy winter I was driving around 4x4's that were stuck.

They have various technologies in them including very soft tyres with a higher rubber content. Different tread patterns that fire snow out and ips that give a suction affect on ice. They are slightly noisier, they wear better on cold conditions, but will wear more in warmer conditions. As they are designed to clear snow and slush they are less good at dealing with standing water, but not noticeable. Speed rating is also a little lower so you will have to keep to 170mph.

Hope this helps, but as far as I am concerned they are a no brainer. When spring comes get the summer tyres back on
Thanks for the info, I am looking into buying a set, as they have great reviews smile
But one ( maybe a daft one) question, the r8 has staggered rims, and they don't seam to offer the rear ones, so how do I sort this issue ??

I don't think I will need to worry about the temp rising above 7 degrees where I will be traveling smilesmile