Old car exhaust smell...
Old car exhaust smell...
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ArnieVXR

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2,458 posts

214 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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So the missus is unhappy with the acrid, old car smell of the exhaust fumes on the GTS. She's refusing to go in the car, which is a bit of a plus TBH. To be fair, while I'm happy with the stink of a race car, it's a little anti-social on a road car. Question is what's the source and what's the resolution?

The engine is a low miles LS1 that doesn't burn oil, so I can't see that it's to blame. So is it the tune or cats or what?

gsd2000

11,515 posts

214 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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i would say cats, or has it got a vented catch can

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

241 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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cats definitely, as soon as I ran without for a very brief time it was a trip down memory lane. Someone somewhere that I know has some 200cel race cats from miltek

by the way, is it the old unfiltered smell of carbons or is it that old acrid smell of oil burning in the exhaust? If the latter you know you are going to be working on those heads of yours

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

241 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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btw, I measured as much as possible with/without cats and there was no benefit at all removing them, obvously miht be different with stock...

anonymous-user

85 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Mine has been known to run without cats and doesn't smell. However, it did horribly when I had an exhaust leak, check all all the joints under the car. Also, as G suggested, make sure the breathers are all attached and not leaking and if it has a catch can, bin it. Horrible, smelly things!

ArnieVXR

Original Poster:

2,458 posts

214 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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It's definitely from the back of the car. No catch can, stock breather setup IIRC (Roger?). Roger fitted the exhaust and there's not sign of a leak. The smoke is white, not blue and it doesn't smell like oil. It's the old skool hydrocarbon smell of the type that comes from a Rover TC, Jag 420, Cortina, etc.

I'll sort out some new cats too...item #103 on the list rolleyes

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

241 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Cats ahem

anonymous-user

85 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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ArnieVXR said:
Roger fitted the exhaust and there's not sign of a leak.
He also did mine but when a bolt fell out of one of the cat replacement sections, it stank at traffic lights. Don't get me wrong, it still smells like an old Cortina from behind but inside the car it's fine which is surely the point? It's an old tech 5.7L petrol, it will never smell Euro 5 emissions-compliant!

pah250

3,270 posts

186 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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I get the old school hydrocarbon exhaust smell from mine too, but only since decatting. So would guess cats are the cure.

That said I can only smell it from inside the car if I'm stuck in traffic with the windows down.

KMud

2,924 posts

187 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Your missus sounds high maintenance!

The EVAP hard-line is on the firewall, next to the fuel hard-line. You should find a line coming from the front passenger side of the intake, through a big plastic cylinder (solenoid, like this) to the hard-line on the firewall. If that's attached then I would agree with cats/exhaust leak.

Behold81

2,931 posts

200 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Headers gasket??? I think that's my issue. Mine does the same but only dice changing them. I think it's a rubbish gasket

M11 MFP

688 posts

224 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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The car was remapped and the engine was not running well when when you bought it. Bet the cats have been oiled, coked up, could have been overheated too. Might not even be a centre in them at all now.

It would be worth just checking on some rollers what the AFR does at various revs and load. I take it you have already got the exhaust pinging hot and there has been no improvement. The car has had a long and varied life so the history of the tune, exhaust etc is not known.

You say the car runs well now, so the O2 sensors and MAF must be functioning correctly?

Highly unlikely to be anything to do with the motor, it's done 21200 miles and has never visited Thunder Road or the like. I have all the oil history if required, 6 or so changes I think in those miles. A new owner may wish to see that.

raving

1,183 posts

221 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Make sure exhaust tails stick out past bumper & check boot rubber seal.

ArnieVXR

Original Poster:

2,458 posts

214 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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There's not much if a smell in the car and it's definitely worse when cold. The cat pipes were rotted through, so they're probably fubar. I've got some stainless headers and catless mid-pipes. If I can't source some decent cats, I'll buy some stainless 200-cell jobbies and fit them. After which I'll get it rolling roaded and a new tune made up.

RiggzVXGTS

461 posts

177 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Nice looking ride btw, I'm running no cats on my VX GTS and never had a problem with smell. MF fitted my wortec and it's all good, like stated before might be running lean.

r8black

1,405 posts

160 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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Mine was fine until decatted and now will kill you if engine is running and loading up boot, and very strong smell now

But I like it, she also spits fuel over cars behind me. And that's fine to especially if it's a BMW badge in rear mirror

ARAF

20,759 posts

254 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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(Note to self: Do not convoy behind R8black.) wink

r8black

1,405 posts

160 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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ARAF said:
(Note to self: Do not convoy behind R8black.) wink
That's why James is always trying to overtake melaugh

Tipped 170 today 5 up fully loaded, so impressed with this car never fails to impress.

ARAF

20,759 posts

254 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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r8black said:
ARAF said:
(Note to self: Do not convoy behind R8black.) wink
That's why James is always trying to overtake melaugh

Tipped 170 today 5 up fully loaded, so impressed with this car never fails to impress.
Private road from Manchester back to civilisation?

r8black

1,405 posts

160 months

Sunday 14th December 2014
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ARAF said:
r8black said:
ARAF said:
(Note to self: Do not convoy behind R8black.) wink
That's why James is always trying to overtake melaugh

Tipped 170 today 5 up fully loaded, so impressed with this car never fails to impress.
Private road from Manchester back to civilisation?
biglaugh