E3 GTS Headlights
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Tattooboy

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7,946 posts

206 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Any one know if they can be taken out without taking the bumber off?

My HID's for OZ have arrived with the built in Ballasts, I've got plenty of access on the passenger side, but none on the drivers side.

Should have checked first as I spent a few minutes fiddling getting the passenger side fitted and working, then realised I couldnt fit the drivers side, so had to take the passenger side back out again ! hehe

Must admit, the built in Ballasts are a much nicer bit of kit thumbup

I'm waiting for a new loom for the Blind Spot Alert Sensors in the front bumper so if they don't come out without removing the bumper, I'll wait and take it to Neil and do them all at once.

preciousmetal

3,373 posts

204 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Tattooboy said:
Any one know if they can be taken out without taking the bumber off?

My HID's for OZ have arrived with the built in Ballasts, I've got plenty of access on the passenger side, but none on the drivers side.

Should have checked first as I spent a few minutes fiddling getting the passenger side fitted and working, then realised I couldnt fit the drivers side, so had to take the passenger side back out again ! hehe

Must admit, the built in Ballasts are a much nicer bit of kit thumbup

I'm waiting for a new loom for the Blind Spot Alert Sensors in the front bumper so if they don't come out without removing the bumper, I'll wait and take it to Neil and do them all at once.
ian, I have a feeling its bumper off or at least pulled fwd. Gary H would know for defo

pah250

3,270 posts

183 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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I found the easiest way to do it was to jack the car up at the front wheel, peel back the inner wheel arch liner (there are some plastic clips to remove) then you can get good access to the rear of the bulb enclosure through the wheel arch.

I found that I didn't even need to take the wheel off - simply jacking it up meant that the wheel dropped enough through the travel of the suspension for me to get my hands in peel back the inner arch liner to gain access, but you can remove the front wheel if you like.

Tattooboy

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Monday 2nd February 2015
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Thanks for info gents, woukld prob make sense to take the bumper off for ease, and as it needs to come off anyway to fit the wiring loom, I'll fit the HID's then thumbup

arh1a

97 posts

155 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Shame they don't do HIDs with the built in Ballasts for the Monaro frown

Tattooboy

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Monday 2nd February 2015
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arh1a said:
Shame they don't do HIDs with the built in Ballasts for the Monaro frown
Not that I've seen the screw cap of a Monaro head light for a few years now, if you are near a VXR8 owner, you could compare to see if they are compatible.

The caps only have 3 lugs that you line up and then twist, if these are in the right position, there should be no reason why they wont fit.

Are you local to Westcliff-On-Sea? could always pop round for a trail fit as I doubt I'll be fitting mine for a few weeks yet.

arh1a

97 posts

155 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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Tattooboy said:
Not that I've seen the screw cap of a Monaro head light for a few years now, if you are near a VXR8 owner, you could compare to see if they are compatible.

The caps only have 3 lugs that you line up and then twist, if these are in the right position, there should be no reason why they wont fit.

Are you local to Westcliff-On-Sea? could always pop round for a trail fit as I doubt I'll be fitting mine for a few weeks yet.
Thanks for the info that's a really good idea thumbup

I will have a look on mine to see if there is 3 lugs for a start.

Unfortunately not but thanks for the offer smile I am based in Plymouth.




Tattooboy

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Monday 2nd February 2015
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arh1a said:
Tattooboy said:
Not that I've seen the screw cap of a Monaro head light for a few years now, if you are near a VXR8 owner, you could compare to see if they are compatible.

The caps only have 3 lugs that you line up and then twist, if these are in the right position, there should be no reason why they wont fit.

Are you local to Westcliff-On-Sea? could always pop round for a trail fit as I doubt I'll be fitting mine for a few weeks yet.
Thanks for the info that's a really good idea thumbup

I will have a look on mine to see if there is 3 lugs for a start.

Unfortunately not but thanks for the offer smile I am based in Plymouth.
In an ideal world, if the screw caps are the same and they fit, all you should need to is just buy the replacement bulbs in the correct fitment and swap them over like for like, ie 4300K / 6000K etc

Can't see why that won't work ?

donk r8

2,755 posts

224 months

Monday 2nd February 2015
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As said Ian on the drivers side you can get at the back of the light just by taking the arch liner out, see pic.....................;) I assume you have the same HID's


Tattooboy

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Monday 2nd February 2015
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donk r8 said:
As said Ian on the drivers side you can get at the back of the light just by taking the arch liner out, see pic.....................;) I assume you have the same HID's

Yep, those very ones Donk smile

Thanks for the pics thumbup

arh1a

97 posts

155 months

Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Tattooboy said:
arh1a said:
Tattooboy said:
Not that I've seen the screw cap of a Monaro head light for a few years now, if you are near a VXR8 owner, you could compare to see if they are compatible.

The caps only have 3 lugs that you line up and then twist, if these are in the right position, there should be no reason why they wont fit.

Are you local to Westcliff-On-Sea? could always pop round for a trail fit as I doubt I'll be fitting mine for a few weeks yet.
Thanks for the info that's a really good idea thumbup

I will have a look on mine to see if there is 3 lugs for a start.

Unfortunately not but thanks for the offer smile I am based in Plymouth.
In an ideal world, if the screw caps are the same and they fit, all you should need to is just buy the replacement bulbs in the correct fitment and swap them over like for like, ie 4300K / 6000K etc

Can't see why that won't work ?
Yes I hope that will work as it looks factory fitted which is what I always aim for. I've emailed the company as well to see if the built in ballasts will fit the Monaro headlights so fingers crossed I will get the answer I want to hear smile

Tattooboy

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Tuesday 3rd February 2015
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Will be interesting to see what they say, but I have a feeling they will just say no without giving it any thought.

Meassure up the distance between the lugs on the back of your Monaro head light cap and I can check them against mine, see if they are even in the same ball park.

Be worth getting the size of the cap across as well, just in cast the lugs are the same distance but the caps are different sizes !

arh1a

97 posts

155 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Tattooboy said:
Will be interesting to see what they say, but I have a feeling they will just say no without giving it any thought.

Meassure up the distance between the lugs on the back of your Monaro head light cap and I can check them against mine, see if they are even in the same ball park.

Be worth getting the size of the cap across as well, just in cast the lugs are the same distance but the caps are different sizes !
I've had a reply back from them and just need to confirm if the cap with built in ballast will fit then they will look into getting the supplier to make a H11 HID kit for the Monaro.

Wont have access to the car till the weekend so if I don't get any measurements before then I will send you them over the weekend smile

Tattooboy

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Wednesday 4th February 2015
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arh1a said:
Tattooboy said:
Will be interesting to see what they say, but I have a feeling they will just say no without giving it any thought.

Meassure up the distance between the lugs on the back of your Monaro head light cap and I can check them against mine, see if they are even in the same ball park.

Be worth getting the size of the cap across as well, just in cast the lugs are the same distance but the caps are different sizes !
I've had a reply back from them and just need to confirm if the cap with built in ballast will fit then they will look into getting the supplier to make a H11 HID kit for the Monaro.

Wont have access to the car till the weekend so if I don't get any measurements before then I will send you them over the weekend smile
Well if the cap does fit, it should just be the case of swapping over the bulbs to the H11 fitment, as you can do this as there are 2 connector plugs between the ballasts and bulbs (so you can change over blown bulbs etc) unless the ballast rating need changing for the Monaro wiring looms?

Sounds a result anyway thumbup

EssexVXR8

1,790 posts

215 months

Wednesday 4th February 2015
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Ian you useless tt , can't even change a light bulb Lol. Call me won't take long lol wink

Tattooboy

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Thursday 5th February 2015
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EssexVXR8 said:
Ian you useless tt , can't even change a light bulb Lol. Call me won't take long lol wink
hehe Thanks cutie pie, do I need to call you via the AA ?? Are you well known for having girlie small hands ?? biggrin

arh1a

97 posts

155 months

Monday 9th February 2015
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Tattooboy said:
Will be interesting to see what they say, but I have a feeling they will just say no without giving it any thought.

Meassure up the distance between the lugs on the back of your Monaro head light cap and I can check them against mine, see if they are even in the same ball park.

Be worth getting the size of the cap across as well, just in cast the lugs are the same distance but the caps are different sizes !
I've taken some measurements and attached them below. If you need any other measurement let me know.








Tattooboy

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Monday 9th February 2015
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arh1a said:
Tattooboy said:
Will be interesting to see what they say, but I have a feeling they will just say no without giving it any thought.

Meassure up the distance between the lugs on the back of your Monaro head light cap and I can check them against mine, see if they are even in the same ball park.

Be worth getting the size of the cap across as well, just in cast the lugs are the same distance but the caps are different sizes !
I've taken some measurements and attached them below. If you need any other measurement let me know.







Hi mate, just compared the sizes above and the GTS / R8 caps are smaller than the Monaro ones by about 20mm, they are only 65mm across so you will need to find some Monaro Specific fitment jobbies, sorry frown

arh1a

97 posts

155 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Tattooboy said:
Hi mate, just compared the sizes above and the GTS / R8 caps are smaller than the Monaro ones by about 20mm, they are only 65mm across so you will need to find some Monaro Specific fitment jobbies, sorry frown
No worries thanks for checking though was worth a shot

Hex

568 posts

223 months

Thursday 12th February 2015
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Tattooboy said:
Hi mate, just compared the sizes above and the GTS / R8 caps are smaller than the Monaro ones by about 20mm, they are only 65mm across so you will need to find some Monaro Specific fitment jobbies, sorry frown
Does that mean the whole GTS/R8 built in ballast would just fit inside the monaro cap and be put back on laugh