Gm"s new 2016 El camino ? ( Ute )
Gm"s new 2016 El camino ? ( Ute )
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raving

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1,183 posts

212 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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ARAF

20,759 posts

245 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Is it happening?

I'm surprised that GM never took the Ute to America, as the El Camino. The Commodore managed to cross the Pacific as the G8 and then the SS, so if the market was there, they had a ready made product for little outlay.

KMud

2,924 posts

178 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Possibly a better reception if it's a domestic design?

Does look well-proportioned, prettier but less useful perhaps.

bigwheel

1,634 posts

236 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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KMud said:
Possibly a better reception if it's a domestic design?

Does look well-proportioned, prettier but less useful perhaps.
Insufficient description, that needs a "WOW" lickyum

raving

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1,183 posts

212 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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The rear 1/4 panel lines look better on this I rek

Wheels are bit bling though

Granby

2,473 posts

237 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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raving said:
The rear 1/4 panel lines look better on this I rek

Wheels are bit bling though
Liking that except as you say the wheels

jameshsv

5,844 posts

182 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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raving said:
The rear 1/4 panel lines look better on this I rek

Wheels are bit bling though
Wow goldy will like this

preciousmetal

3,373 posts

198 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Where do I sign. That's lovely

BartW

1,693 posts

191 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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Price???

goldvxr8

2,949 posts

188 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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jameshsv said:
raving said:
The rear 1/4 panel lines look better on this I rek

Wheels are bit bling though
Wow goldy will like this
O yes

Dave3166

1,846 posts

148 months

Saturday 22nd August 2015
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You would struggle to sleep in that goldy!!!!biggrinlaugh

goldvxr8

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188 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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Dave3166 said:
You would struggle to sleep in that goldy!!!!biggrinlaugh
No i find a way

Jader1973

4,800 posts

222 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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ARAF said:
Is it happening?

I'm surprised that GM never took the Ute to America, as the El Camino. The Commodore managed to cross the Pacific as the G8 and then the SS, so if the market was there, they had a ready made product for little outlay.
USA has deliberately high import duty on pickups - IIRC 20% or thereabouts - to make it too expensive to import from overseas therefore protecting local manufacturing.

So importing the Commodore Ute as a Chev would never have worked financially.

IXLR8

2,025 posts

171 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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Not much in the way of usable space but it DOES look sexy

Mmmm Never really liked the name much though.... sounds rather tame scratchchin

It would be bloody spoilt if you see a GOLDIE hanging out the back of it yikeshehe

DRC72

652 posts

208 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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The simple reason is that they struggled to sell 30'000 imported cars from Australia through the pontiac brand.

Just before the down turn in 2009 they had only shifted 10'000 cars and they had ordered 30'000 cars.

Under the restructure of chapter 11 Pontiac was one of the brands they chopped due to poor car sales.

Its a bit similar to vauxhall when they ordered a few hundred vxr8's and most were stored up because they could not sell them, until they reduced the price.


Edited by DRC72 on Sunday 23 August 10:11

ARAF

20,759 posts

245 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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Jader1973 said:
ARAF said:
Is it happening?

I'm surprised that GM never took the Ute to America, as the El Camino. The Commodore managed to cross the Pacific as the G8 and then the SS, so if the market was there, they had a ready made product for little outlay.
USA has deliberately high import duty on pickups - IIRC 20% or thereabouts - to make it too expensive to import from overseas therefore protecting local manufacturing.

So importing the Commodore Ute as a Chev would never have worked financially.
Not just the US. The worldwide duty rate on pickups is 22%.

Anyway, they don't have to import them, as they have the necessary manufacture and assembly plants, so could import all non-US produced parts for assembly, or duplicate the tooling from Oz.

Jader1973

4,800 posts

222 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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ARAF said:
Jader1973 said:
ARAF said:
Is it happening?

I'm surprised that GM never took the Ute to America, as the El Camino. The Commodore managed to cross the Pacific as the G8 and then the SS, so if the market was there, they had a ready made product for little outlay.
USA has deliberately high import duty on pickups - IIRC 20% or thereabouts - to make it too expensive to import from overseas therefore protecting local manufacturing.

So importing the Commodore Ute as a Chev would never have worked financially.
Not just the US. The worldwide duty rate on pickups is 22%.

Anyway, they don't have to import them, as they have the necessary manufacture and assembly plants, so could import all non-US produced parts for assembly, or duplicate the tooling from Oz.
True. Except that would be incredibly expensive - more expensive than importing probably (not a lot of Commodore comes from the US).

And......

It would mean the GMNA admitting that somewhere other than the US had the right idea - which is never going to happen.

ARAF

20,759 posts

245 months

Sunday 23rd August 2015
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Jader1973 said:
True. Except that would be incredibly expensive - more expensive than importing probably (not a lot of Commodore comes from the US).
You'd be surprised how many body pressings are moved around the world for assembly already.