Couple of pics from my VXR8 engine fail....
Couple of pics from my VXR8 engine fail....
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davegreg

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1,099 posts

211 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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Hopefully have new engine installed next week - cant wait to get it back. smile

paul450

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197 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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eek you done a good job of that

S800VXR

5,877 posts

222 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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More effort needed next time..... Not! Really bks end that.

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

229 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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Conrod didn't manage it out of the engine 6/10 laugh

stevieturbo

17,935 posts

269 months

Wednesday 9th September 2015
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Nicely done, very unusual for an exhaust valve to fail though.

Hard to see in the pics, but compared to other engines where it has dropped valves, the damage almost seems well contained.

If the heads have been ported or anything, that does look like it could be repaired ok. What's the bore like ? Block and some other parts might be salvageable.

neiljohnson

11,298 posts

229 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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Could it be that the big end went allowing the piston to hit the valve stevie?

ArnieVXR

2,449 posts

205 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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stevieturbo said:
Nicely done, very unusual for an exhaust valve to fail though.

Hard to see in the pics, but compared to other engines where it has dropped valves, the damage almost seems well contained.

If the heads have been ported or anything, that does look like it could be repaired ok. What's the bore like ? Block and some other parts might be salvageable.
What Stevie says ^^^

The block (assuming the sleeve isn't fubar), other head, water pump, sensors will be fine. Lifters, cam, etc would need a visual.

New head, rods, pistons, rings, new oil pump, bit of work re-boring, new gaskets and fasteners. I'd go for a 4.00" stroker kit and make it worth the effort.

stevieturbo

17,935 posts

269 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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It's weird really.

I see no major signs that the piston has been hitting the head..anywhere that makes contact would generally be very clean, the chamber and flat parts are not clean.

Also very strange, is how little damage the combustion chamber has received, normally when a valve drops, the chamber is pounded into st.

The rod is still bolted to the crank, and if teh big end bearing failed that badly first, the knocking would have been obscene...and you would assume the driver would stop.

It does look like either a road or piston failure first off, which somehow took out the exhaust valve too, simply because of the lack of damage to the chamber from the piston beating the head of the valve into the chamber.
Likewise, the head of the valve looks almost intact, albeit slightly misplaced.

Any I've seen where the valve has failed first, is usually bent stupid from the beating, or even in a couple of pieces.

And where is the gudgeon pin ?

Edited by stevieturbo on Thursday 10th September 11:02

speed4u

446 posts

205 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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Looks like this was turned off quickly and the piston smashed straight away as there is only a few dents in the head did the spring break? Which is common. P.s you have mail

DCLXIV

361 posts

157 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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Eh, I've sanctioned a rebuild of worse :P

ArnieVXR

2,449 posts

205 months

Thursday 10th September 2015
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My money's on the rod failing first. The break line on the rod (picture 3) shows two different surfaces: one shiny on the left and one uniformly rough/grey across the rest of it. Guessing the shiny bit was a crack in the rod from earlier abuse. The carbon deposits on the top of the piston are undisturbed, so it didn't spend much time hitting the head. I'd say the end of the rod still attached to the crank spent its time whacking the detached piston until it split in two and fell to its doom. That's why the bore doesn't look too bad. Might also explain why the valves got hit, but the chamber didn't.

Edited by ArnieVXR on Thursday 10th September 21:02