Speed Cameras
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headhoon

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268 posts

240 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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Does anyone know the tolerance on the speed cameras (Gatso etc) also what bandwidth do the radars in police cars cover? as in K-band KA-band etc....All to make me a safer driver of course.

HSVGTSCoupe

2,535 posts

251 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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My trusty cobra detector says K band whenever I go past a fixed camera that happens to be on (for the record, that's about 5 % of normal location cameras & 85% of ones in roadworks areas)

On the few times that Johnny Law has pointed the hairdryer at me, the laser detection has activated & the K & Ka have remained silent????

Funnily enough, my VG2 alert (radar detector detector!) goes off a lot on the motorway & I can't seem to isolate the source. As far as I know, cops over here are not like the nazis in Oz & don't have detector detectors in the traffic cars.

headhoon

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268 posts

240 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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Dam, I've got a good detector that I bought over from NZ but I have just purchased a GPS unit for the cameras. I didn't realise the cameras used radar.

StuartL

110 posts

250 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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Some do some don't. Truvellos and SPECs don't so a GPS is essential for them.

BO55 VXR

4,373 posts

272 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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Didn't Top Gear did a test with a Gatso where they managed to get to fail to trigger if you did more than 170MPH past them?

V6 JDT

1,275 posts

243 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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Mine activated on the A9 with flashing lights and mobile showing so it does work brilliantly and I did get nicked The only way they are any use for the well hidden camera van is if someone else is getting targetted at a distance and the beamwidth of the laser has a chance to widen (with distance) and you detect it. AP brakes may help in slowing you down but as Windy M says you would need a reaction time of <300ms and instant braking. I need a Guardian Angel not a R**d Angel

Well_Fans

4,193 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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actually as far as laser guns go they have been proven to be problematic and erratic with their readings and may well be worth fighting in the courts. It has been shown that using a laser it was possible to make a house appear to be moving at 40mph!!! Laser apparently is only accurate if the beam maintains a fixed position on your car, if it scans across your vehicle as you close in on the gun then it is highly suspect (ie if its hand held I'd ask the question). There are also apparently some rather nifty laser based garage opening systems which cause a scatter effect with the gun and make it fail. These are intended only to be "on" when you approach your garage and if the police gun fails again when it resets after 5 secs then you're going to get pulled for them to check. So in theory they can help if you can a)slow down and b)switch off the device all in under 5 secs from when your detector goes mental. If they get their way this will all be irrelevant anyway as the entire country will be being monitored and 50 million car journeys logged every day. They wont even need to leave the station to catch you - just hand the data to some poor sod in an Indian call centre and pay them £1 a month to hand out fines to everyone going 1mph over the limit.
I see that even the Europeans are joining in this month and starting to hand out points as well as fines and they'll be added to your licence wherever you live. They've hammered the smokers now its the car owners that are the new #1 public enemy.

stevieturbo

17,916 posts

268 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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Well_Fans said:
They've hammered the smokers now its the car owners that are the new #1 public enemy.


Smoking does stink though lol


Car owners have been public enemy for many years now. they hate us, but they absolutely LOVE taking our money.

Windy Miller

263 posts

239 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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V6 JDT said:
The only way they are any use for the well hidden camera van is if someone else is getting targetted at a distance and the beamwidth of the laser has a chance to widen (with distance) and you detect it.


Alas, the divergence of the beam in something like the LTI 20.20 is a titchy 3 milliradians. At 300m range, the beam is only a metre wide (hence why some dashtop detectors wont see it if its aimed at the number plate). Chances of scatter are about as much as finding that guardian angel! The only times mines ever detected laser is when the beam was directly on me. Fortunately, in all cases, the operators of the offending equipment had been visually spotted some time before, giving me the chance to confirm that I was, indeed, sticking rigidly to the speed limit!

Bignige

2,584 posts

245 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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I have noticed that the Monaros speedo is the most accurate of any vehicle I've ever owned.

The GPS in the car shows it to be no more than 1mph out at any point which is pretty damned good I reckon.


DAVE52

262 posts

264 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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SPEED CAMERAS!what's that all about then?I know nothing (HONEST ME LUD)

V8D

458 posts

255 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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During some of my work with vehicle manufacturers, I have been told that there is a directive from the evil empire (EEC) that the speedos of all vehicles manufactured within its jurisdiction have to be set to read an average of 5% over. Maybe because the Monaro is built in a country with more sense, they are allowed to make it read correctly !! Mine is also accurate to 1mph or better.

gregwatson

1,049 posts

241 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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I have seen a parking aid for sale that happens to be laser-based. By coincidence it happens to use laser light very similar to that used in handheld speed guns. Fortunately in the event that the parking aid should happen to interfere with any other laser-based systems it will warn you and then switch itself off after a few seconds, which is nice.

DevilYellowCV8

745 posts

244 months

Thursday 2nd March 2006
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V8D said:
During some of my work with vehicle manufacturers, I have been told that there is a directive from the evil empire (EEC) that the speedos of all vehicles manufactured within its jurisdiction have to be set to read an average of 5% over. Maybe because the Monaro is built in a country with more sense, they are allowed to make it read correctly !! Mine is also accurate to 1mph or better.


I use a R**d Angel for everyday running around in my Corsa 1.3CDTi (2004 which is Spanish built) and the speedo is absolutley spot on with the GPS speed reading. Shame the guy who drives this car for me to deliver my work has been nailed 3 times in the last 6 months for speeding. He just won't have it from me that the speedo is spot on and even with the GPS unit in place, he just won't accept this modern advance in speed measurement. He still thinks that the speedo is cable driven...

I don't let him use my GPS as that'd only make him feel even more invincible plus he'd probably try to sue me if the laser detector didn't go off and in the process got another fine..


Well_Fans

4,193 posts

245 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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gregwatson - I could do with a new parking device to aid with parking the monaro in tight spaces. perhaps you could point me towards where I could get such a thing.

booster

717 posts

251 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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Do you think then that I would be wasting my money in getting a R**d Angel. I have been looking at getting one for some time now.

yorkkie

544 posts

250 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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Met the Black Stig last night at a dinner, He reckoned cameras dont work past 176mph

A57 HSV

1,510 posts

251 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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booster said:
Do you think then that I would be wasting my money in getting a R**d Angel. I have been looking at getting one for some time now.

I really don't feel easy driving any car without my R/A. If you pm me I have a good contact who will give you a generous discount.

booster

717 posts

251 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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A57 HSV said:
I really don't feel easy driving any car without my R/A. If you pm me I have a good contact who will give you a generous discount.


Thanks! Can't find the pm though on this forum? my email is brian AT fenderboy.demon.co.uk

A57 HSV

1,510 posts

251 months

Friday 3rd March 2006
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booster said:
A57 HSV said:
I really don't feel easy driving any car without my R/A. If you pm me I have a good contact who will give you a generous discount.


Thanks! Can't find the pm though on this forum? my email is brian AT fenderboy.demon.co.uk


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