Stupid question time....
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a longer ratio will improve top end and make the gears longer
a shorter ratio will reduce top end and make the gears closer together
first is very long and there is a lot of overlap on the gears with the large torque range in the monaro so changing it will only have the realy effect of increasing top speed or moving the gears nearer if shortening
you only need the gears nearer if you are changin the engine charecteristics to a narrower power range ie serious modding and the top speed should not really be a problem as mine does 40 mph at 1000 rpm
which equates to 200 at 5000 rpm roughly so long enough
only real reason for elongating the gears is better fuel econemy
ie 6 becomes a real overdrive
shortening the gears will give a slight increase in performance butnot enough to justify the cost
prefer engine mods
Sean
a shorter ratio will reduce top end and make the gears closer together
first is very long and there is a lot of overlap on the gears with the large torque range in the monaro so changing it will only have the realy effect of increasing top speed or moving the gears nearer if shortening
you only need the gears nearer if you are changin the engine charecteristics to a narrower power range ie serious modding and the top speed should not really be a problem as mine does 40 mph at 1000 rpm
which equates to 200 at 5000 rpm roughly so long enough
only real reason for elongating the gears is better fuel econemy
ie 6 becomes a real overdrive
shortening the gears will give a slight increase in performance butnot enough to justify the cost
prefer engine mods
Sean
BO55 VXR said:
Will a change of Diff Ratio affect RWBHP/Torque?
Erm............did I misread the question BO55 VXR? Confused now looking at the other replies. The question and answer as I read it was 'will diff ratio affect rear wheel BHP and torque?', if that was it the answer is still no. No difference at all.
BO55 VXR said:
Will a change of Diff Ratio affect RWBHP/Torque?
Depending what you mean by RWBHP/Torque, the answer might be yes.
If you change the gearing this will have some effect on the power measurement you get from a rolling road. It will also affect the rear wheel torque i.e. the torque actually delivered to the rear wheels, not prop shaft torque.
GreenV8S said:
BO55 VXR said:
Will a change of Diff Ratio affect RWBHP/Torque?
Depending what you mean by RWBHP/Torque, the answer might be yes.
If you change the gearing this will have some effect on the power measurement you get from a rolling road. It will also affect the rear wheel torque i.e. the torque actually delivered to the rear wheels, not prop shaft torque.
Please dont take this as a flame but it needs killing
If you remove an engine from a car and measure its BHP and Torque output, nothing except engine modifications will affect those figures. Gearbox / diff ratios will affect its performance in terms of acceleration and speed only.Have a look at these sites. Hope it helps.
www.pumaracing.co.uk/power3.htm
www.pumaracing.co.uk/power2.htm
www.pumaracing.co.uk/power3.htm
www.pumaracing.co.uk/power2.htm
Edited by Paul-C on Friday 2nd June 11:14
bhp is torque times speeed
therfore diffrent gearing will change the torque at diffrent speeds in 1 gear
of corse gears change and there fore this changes
torque changes with gearing so a 2 to 1 ratio of speed ie 1/2 of speed doubles torque
torque directly relates to force on the car
Force = Mass X Acceleration
force / Mass = Acceleration
so the greater the torque at the rear wheels the greater the acceleration
but there is a limit
tyres have a static friction and a dynamic friction
static friction is higher than dynamic friction
so the force up to the static friction will give you max acceleration.
when you go over the static friction force wheels spin and you enter dynamic friction
the shorter the diff the quicker you run out of gears
Sean
PS i have drag racing sim if you want to see the effects of diffrent ratios and see the 1/4 mile times change without spending a penny
>> Edited by splatspeed on Friday 2nd June 11:30
therfore diffrent gearing will change the torque at diffrent speeds in 1 gear
of corse gears change and there fore this changes
torque changes with gearing so a 2 to 1 ratio of speed ie 1/2 of speed doubles torque
torque directly relates to force on the car
Force = Mass X Acceleration
force / Mass = Acceleration
so the greater the torque at the rear wheels the greater the acceleration
but there is a limit
tyres have a static friction and a dynamic friction
static friction is higher than dynamic friction
so the force up to the static friction will give you max acceleration.
when you go over the static friction force wheels spin and you enter dynamic friction
the shorter the diff the quicker you run out of gears
Sean
PS i have drag racing sim if you want to see the effects of diffrent ratios and see the 1/4 mile times change without spending a penny
>> Edited by splatspeed on Friday 2nd June 11:30
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