can someone tell me the legallity...
can someone tell me the legallity...
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stigcv8

Original Poster:

22,454 posts

232 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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...of mixing directionals and unidirectionals on the same axel?

I ask this as (due to my stupidity for not checking) when I collected the car from teh dealers on Thursday they said they had noticed a wobble from the wheels at 50mph but they would look at it before I picked it up.

I picked it up and the wobble was still there and I was unable to get hold of the dealers on friday and saturday still no reply.

So thinking it was something as simple as an imbalance (i still hadnt checked) I took the car to get the balance done. The tyre place showed me that on one side both tyres were unidrectional bridgestones and on the other side both tyres were directionals (fullram or something). Now I was very pissed off at the fact of this, I had seen on one side both were bridgestones and never thought to check teh other side but I do recal something that you must not mix unidirectionals and directionals on teh same axel (or at all) and I wondered if the car was sold in a potentially bad state?

In the end I bought 4 new tyres (very happy with them) and kept the 2 directionals I had taken off as they were pretty much new tyres. I am just unsure as to whether the car should have been sold like this?

Well_Fans

4,193 posts

246 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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It is bad practice to run different tyre treads/brands on any axle and most on here would advise against running different tread between front and rear. I would suggest that although inadvisable the car would be deemed roadworthy by any inspection and therefore would suggest that the dealer has done nothing wrong. It would have been up to you to have the car inspected and request any changes as part of the deal. What tyres did you buy to replace the ones on the car with? Plenty threads on here giving advice on tyre choice and suppliers.

GSI_Daz

1,830 posts

242 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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Did you ask what they thought when you had the new ones fitted? I am sure they would know whether it is legal or not.

stigcv8

Original Poster:

22,454 posts

232 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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nah as I wasnt realy too bothered until last night when I got to thinking that I am sure I had been told in the past it wasn't allowed, obviously wrong.

Anyway I'm not overly fussed, it was my own fault not to double check all round, I took it on face value when I saw one side that no one would be so stupid to do what had been done.

On a sperate note, the rating of the tyres were Z. Am I correct in thinking they should be W rated or better? I got Y's fitted as they were the only ones available.

Well_Fans

4,193 posts

246 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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Y's are good for up to 185 iirc - be hard pushed to get beyond that on our roads ;-)

hainser

227 posts

243 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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Out of interest, did the new tyres cure the wobble?

tiler

693 posts

258 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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Does this only happen when starting from cold.

AM04ARO

3,646 posts

237 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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If I bought a car from any dealer that had dodgy tyres that you describe I would be going back to them wth the bill for replacement.

No self respecting dealer would knowingly sell a car in that state.

GSI_Daz

1,830 posts

242 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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Was this a Network Q dealer? If it is then I would be straight on to them and complain. It may not be illegal but is not what you expect on a car such as this

stigcv8

Original Poster:

22,454 posts

232 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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hainser said:
Out of interest, did the new tyres cure the wobble?


simple, the wobble was purely down to balance as you approached 50 it got very shuddery on the steering wheel and then you accelerated throught it. New tyres all round were balanced = problem gone, if not I'd not be driving it and it would be on a traielr back to the garage.

The issue could also have been due to two different manufacture tyres on same axle. Just cos they are both teh same size doesnt mean they are the same profile but that problem would have been prevelant more than at just one speed...

stigcv8

Original Poster:

22,454 posts

232 months

Monday 9th October 2006
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GSI_Daz said:
Was this a Network Q dealer? If it is then I would be straight on to them and complain. It may not be illegal but is not what you expect on a car such as this


I'll be on the phone to them or rather I'll do it via email as I prefer to have things written down.

it wasnt a network q garage and I dont want to say their name either as I am overall happy with them

V8 EOL

2,782 posts

244 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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I too purchased mine from a VX dealer. It has bridgestones on 3 corners and dunlop on the 4th. It was probably due to a puncture as the dunlop has lots of tred left and I have just replaced the opposite number for a spanking new one (at a whopping £193!!!).

I havent noticed any problems running the 'odd one out'. I even survived 32 laps around the ring. No wobbles or anything.

I do intend to standardise on the bridgestone boots as quite a few on-line tyre sites where users rated tyres seem to think they were pretty good. but at that price they should be...

V8HSV

2,457 posts

274 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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Nangang from mytyre

I am very happy with the above tyre, especially at £101 each!

Edited by V8HSV on Tuesday 10th October 12:49

Well_Fans

4,193 posts

246 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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or goodyear eagle f1's at 100+vat each - much better wet performance than the bridgestones. very few people on here would recommend the bridgestones for anything other than dry roads. do a search for previous discussions on tyres and the recommended choices and suppliers.

yorkkie

544 posts

251 months

Tuesday 10th October 2006
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just taken 2 brand new F1s off my car (only done 150 miles) and replaced them with AVONs

Paul-C

1,126 posts

247 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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yorkkie said:
just taken 2 brand new F1s off my car (only done 150 miles) and replaced them with AVONs


confused

Why? Hand on heart if you drive these things as they should be driven you will find Avons are not in the same league as F1s.

yorkkie

544 posts

251 months

Wednesday 11th October 2006
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maybe i dont drive it the way i should or maybe my opinion is different to yours, or maybe it is both.