MOTOR mag - New Munro???
MOTOR mag - New Munro???
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hsvgtscoupe

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2,535 posts

252 months

Tuesday 13th February 2007
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My mothly car porn mag hit my intray this morning from Oz.. sorry for the crap res pix but that's the best my shitbox Nokia can produce - we all know we only look at pix anyway huh?



Stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

232 months

Tuesday 13th February 2007
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if its as heavy as the current car one can only expect flex as one of the following:

[ ] a modicum of flex
[ ] Mr Universe flexing his biceps
[ ] North Korea flexing their new nuclear weapons

Insert x in your choice

hsvgtscoupe

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252 months

Tuesday 13th February 2007
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I'm sure it's just Mr MOTOR & his photo-shop editor havin some fun - As pictured on the last page of the spread GM have touted the idea of a topless Munro back when the CV8 was launched (I actually have that copy of MOTOR here in UK as well) you may see some p/types (with & without lids) at the upcoming Car shows in Oz to bring in the crowds & judge the domestic punter's interest (similar to the CV8's birth story I spose?) but I can't see them doing a lidless version full on - would be too heavy with the xtra metal as a serious performance seller - maybe see them driven by blonde bimbo seppos that want a V8 sunbed but that gotta be the limit of it 4 sure??

willisit

2,167 posts

253 months

Wednesday 14th February 2007
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I've been looking in to this and I can't see how it'll happen with the Camaro on the way. Can the Australian and UK markets deal with two V8 coupes from the same manufacturing house?

ringram

14,701 posts

270 months

Thursday 15th February 2007
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Hopefully they will base them on the same platform. Then its just rebadging aka the Pontiac G8 and Holden Commodore. If they dont then that would be a bit silly.
In which case I think you are right, the Camaro in Oz may well just be a RHD camaro with Holden paraphenalia

willisit

2,167 posts

253 months

Thursday 15th February 2007
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The thinking (as that's all it is) is that the Camaro would hit the Australian market as the Camaro and the Monaro name would not reappear...

hsvgtscoupe

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252 months

Thursday 15th February 2007
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As you prob spied from the magazine cover, there is also a blurb in the same issue on the Camaro "coming to Oz". Reading the article, it's talking about the production of the Camaro being done in Oz by Holden (for global market) based on the "success" of the Pontiac GTO (left hook Munro). Makes no comments on the obviously valid earlier question about would there be any logic in building two different V8 coupes at the same time.

Twin Turbo

5,544 posts

288 months

Friday 16th February 2007
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Hmm, just doesn't make sense for GM to produce a new Monaro AND a new Camaro. As much as I love the current (or should that be old?) Monaro, the looks of the Camaro blow it into the weeds. It's stunning lick

V-Car

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260 months

Friday 16th February 2007
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hsvgtscoupe said:
As you prob spied from the magazine cover, there is also a blurb in the same issue on the Camaro "coming to Oz". Reading the article, it's talking about the production of the Camaro being done in Oz by Holden (for global market) based on the "success" of the Pontiac GTO (left hook Munro). Makes no comments on the obviously valid earlier question about would there be any logic in building two different V8 coupes at the same time.


I havent read the article, but i think maybe what they meant was that it wasnt so much going to be 'produced' here, rather that Holden is developing the Camaro (on the Commodore Zeta platform) in Australia for GM to produce in the US.
Apparently there are already prototypes running around Melbourne under modified Commodore bodies.
As for Monaro, its well known that Holden got as far as the final clay for a VE Coupe before it was cancelled, but it still exists, tucked away out the back of the design studio, so read that as put on back burner for later use, possibly in the US.
The G8 is just the first of quite a few different vehicles that will be produced by maybe Pontiac, Chevrolet and Buick in both SWB and LWB form, and they wont all be four door sedans. Holden is just building them now as a stop gap till the US factories gear up to do their own 'Zeta' vehicles.
Im sure that there will be a replacement for the GTO, but it would most likely be built in the US, and a few expoted back to Oz (and Britain) as Monaros, or Holden might do it as a niche type export vehicle after G8 production moves to the US.
My feeling is that GMNA is going down the same path again of multiple mid-size vehicles that were so popular there in the 60's, 70's and 80's like the RWD A and G Body Olds Cutlass, Buick Regal, Pontiac Grand Prix and Chevy Monte Carlo.
Remember that the original GTO was just a $300 performance option on one of these regular 2 door sedans back in 1964, namely the Pontiac LeMans.
I think here is room in the US for both a Camaro (sport 2+2 coupe) and GTO (sporty 2 door sedan) like the original, and Monaro.
We know the Camaro will be produced at Oshawa in Canada, but whether there is enough volume for a RHD 2 door sedan like Monaro, or where its built, is anyones guess.
One thing in their favour for RHD is that both cars platforms home is at Holden.