How much to convert to VXR 500
How much to convert to VXR 500
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Gelf VXR

Original Poster:

713 posts

229 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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After watching TG last night, I really liked the sound that the SC makes.

How much does it cost to upgrade??

greens vauxhall

830 posts

231 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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£5500 for std kit, fitted inc VAT.

delmeekc

1,205 posts

232 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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is that non-intercooled? thought some models can only be done intercooled (2004 cv8) or is it now cheaper??

greens vauxhall

830 posts

231 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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non intercooled.....6.0 cars have better cooling and the latest design of rotors and s/c is less aggressive on the air and doesnt heat it up so much.

Edited by greens vauxhall on Monday 5th March 19:56

BO55 VXR

4,373 posts

273 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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greens vauxhall said:
non intercooled.....6.0 cars have better cooling and the latest design of rotors and s/c design is aggressive on the air and doesnt heat it up so much.

delmeekc

1,205 posts

232 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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boxedin

skyblue465

100 posts

243 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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What's the turnaround on the s/c conversion? I'd like to have mine done in about 6-7 wks when I get back from my snowboarding holls.
I was hoping to have it done within a day? cos it's a bit of a trek to Greens for me. Do we have to lose the stut brace? or is it not in the way?

BO55 VXR

4,373 posts

273 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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Why not leave them the car whilst your away? Its in safe hands at Greens

skyblue465

100 posts

243 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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I've absolutely no doubt it would be safe, but I just wanted to avoid doing the trip twice, (getting lifts etc). Tho' I do like the idea of coming home to the s/c car, kind of reminds me of picking up my new VXR6 on the day after I returned from holls two years ago...........Also, I'm guessing the second trip wouldn't take quite as long as the first! (LOL!).

ringram

14,701 posts

270 months

Monday 5th March 2007
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Compressed air = increased temperature.

You may recall Boyles law and Ideal gas laws from school chemistry!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_ga

Its impossible to have forced induction without increased heat. IMO an intercooler is always preferred.

greens vauxhall

830 posts

231 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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skyblue465 said:

What's the turnaround on the s/c conversion? I'd like to have mine done in about 6-7 wks when I get back from my snowboarding holls.
I was hoping to have it done within a day? cos it's a bit of a trek to Greens for me. Do we have to lose the stut brace? or is it not in the way?


If we had it very first thing, we could lend you a car to go and explore for the day, and then it should be ready last thing, as long as its just an s/c. Anything additional would take two min.

skyblue465

100 posts

243 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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greens vauxhall said:
skyblue465 said:

What's the turnaround on the s/c conversion? I'd like to have mine done in about 6-7 wks when I get back from my snowboarding holls.
I was hoping to have it done within a day? cos it's a bit of a trek to Greens for me. Do we have to lose the stut brace? or is it not in the way?


If we had it very first thing, we could lend you a car to go and explore for the day, and then it should be ready last thing, as long as its just an s/c. Anything additional would take two min.



That's exactly the answer I was hoping for, the only addition may be bunging in the my straight through center section, don't 'spect that would take long tho'. I'll call soon to make arangements, who should I ask for?

greens vauxhall

830 posts

231 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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Call 01634 389999 and ask for Jeff, what exhaust do you have on ??

skyblue465

100 posts

243 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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greens vauxhall said:
Call 01634 389999 and ask for Jeff, what exhaust do you have on ??


Wortec cat-back.

Gelf VXR

Original Poster:

713 posts

229 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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greens vauxhall said:
£5500 for std kit, fitted inc VAT.


Thankyou

With everything else stock, what are the expected incresaes in torgue and BHP?

Gelf VXR

Original Poster:

713 posts

229 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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ringram said:
Compressed air = increased temperature.

You may recall Boyles law and Ideal gas laws from school chemistry!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_ga

Its impossible to have forced induction without increased heat. IMO an intercooler is always preferred.


I was under the impression that the efficiency of the compressor was directly related to heat generated.

100% efficient = no heat, the poorer the efficiency, the more heat is generated, if the compressor is of a more efficient design, then it would generate less heat?

greens vauxhall

830 posts

231 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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Gelf VXR said:
ringram said:
Compressed air = increased temperature.

You may recall Boyles law and Ideal gas laws from school chemistry!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ideal_ga

Its impossible to have forced induction without increased heat. IMO an intercooler is always preferred.


I was under the impression that the efficiency of the compressor was directly related to heat generated.

100% efficient = no heat, the poorer the efficiency, the more heat is generated, if the compressor is of a more efficient design, then it would generate less heat?



Correct!

greens vauxhall

830 posts

231 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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Gelf VXR said:
greens vauxhall said:
£5500 for std kit, fitted inc VAT.


Thankyou

With everything else stock, what are the expected incresaes in torgue and BHP?


The S/C should increase power by 100ps in this installation.

pomona

303 posts

266 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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Any rotating elements create heat,some more than others ,but if you want the performance the only way is intercooled.Can make far more boost if particular blower capable when I/C and boost makes power.

v8d

458 posts

256 months

Tuesday 6th March 2007
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Interesting discussion, I have to agree with Ringram.
Surely the efficiency of the compressor is a measure of the volume of air at a given pressure that can be created for a given amount of horsepower in. Any time you take a volume of gas and compress it into a smaller space, hence increase its density and pressure, there is a finite mathematical equation defining the increase in temperature that will occur. This is basic physics and surely non - negotiable? As I understand it (which may be wrong!) using a charge cooler or intercooler will increase the engine's output at a given boost by effectively increasing the density of the charge. So not using a cooler would require higher boost pressure to get the same power?