A Red Bull Pilot at work in an A310..
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Talk about close... man... that is scarey..
www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/09/17/216834/video-tap-a310-low-fly-past-causes-a-stir-at-evora-air-show.html
www.flightglobal.com/articles/2007/09/17/216834/video-tap-a310-low-fly-past-causes-a-stir-at-evora-air-show.html
Reminds me of a flight on TAP once into Heathrow where the pilot seemed to want to land on the grass verge of the runway then at the last second change his mind and lurch across on the asphalt with a similarly alarming dip of the wings close to the ground which bounced us on to one wheel and then the other - took longer to stop than a 747 - oh we were in a 737. Bit scary
Bloody Hell that was close! 
Reminds me of the air show were the computer flew the A320 plane into the trees!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_x4_YGeyQs
Reminds me of the air show were the computer flew the A320 plane into the trees!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_x4_YGeyQs
peterperkins said:
Bloody Hell that was close!
Reminds me of the air show were the computer flew the A320 plane into the trees!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_x4_YGeyQs
Er, computer wasn`t flying.Reminds me of the air show were the computer flew the A320 plane into the trees!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_x4_YGeyQs
Le Sarthe said:
Reminds me of a flight on TAP once into Heathrow where the pilot seemed to want to land on the grass verge of the runway then at the last second change his mind and lurch across on the asphalt with a similarly alarming dip of the wings close to the ground which bounced us on to one wheel and then the other - took longer to stop than a 747 - oh we were in a 737. Bit scary
Crosswind landings always have the passengers looking down the runway out of the side windows.You kick the drift off with the rudder just as the main wheels touch down so the nose points down the runway.
Sometimes if the crosswind is really strong you land into wind wheels first so you can get theee bumps main gera left and right plus nosegear.
The first technique is the Crab
The second is the Wing Down
Most Pilots combine the two untill close to the ground. (unless you fly airbus which won`t let you)
Got to love U tube... how was this ever going to be a good idea????
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V4KGr4W0vU&mode=related&search=
www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V4KGr4W0vU&mode=related&search=
Raggyman said:
Got to love U tube... how was this ever going to be a good idea????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V4KGr4W0vU&mod...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V4KGr4W0vU&mod...
Crisisjez: Here what you are saying - I am famailiar with the techniques.
a) There were no cross winds and apparoach was nice and smooth.
b) I am sure you have seen the width of the main runway at Heathrow versus the size of a 737 and when we lurched at the last minute we must have been banking 20degree plus and it quite literally smashed the left hand main under carriage into the ground which then had the effect of lurching in the opposite direction and back again and back again.
Have had a hard landing previously in fog that was hard enough to make some overhead lockers pop open - this was harder than that.
It was sufficiently out of the ordinary to cause loud expressions of concern in a high pitched manner from many passengers!
a) There were no cross winds and apparoach was nice and smooth.
b) I am sure you have seen the width of the main runway at Heathrow versus the size of a 737 and when we lurched at the last minute we must have been banking 20degree plus and it quite literally smashed the left hand main under carriage into the ground which then had the effect of lurching in the opposite direction and back again and back again.
Have had a hard landing previously in fog that was hard enough to make some overhead lockers pop open - this was harder than that.
It was sufficiently out of the ordinary to cause loud expressions of concern in a high pitched manner from many passengers!
Edited by Le Sarthe on Thursday 20th September 08:09
I used to commute to Manchester from London. Gets very routine but one time we were on final approach and at the last second the engines went to full and the airplane banked sharply (and I am taking 60-80 degrees of bank) and turned so hard all the overhead lockers opened and luggage fell out. First (and thankfully the only) time I have experienced what I would call proper "g" force on a commercial airliner.
After a few seconds (felt longer) everything settled down and suprisingly everyone was quiet (too shocked to say/do anything!) and the captain came and said "terribly sorry for the ladies and gentleman but we almost landed on a 747 taking off".
Apparently an ATC mixup...
Oh - there was a time flying from Texas back to Blighty when a few moments after takeoff an annoucement came on saying "Emergency! Would all passengers assume the brace position immediately for an emergency water landing!"
That was an attendant pressing the wrong button - she wanted to turn on the inflight entertainment but got it wrong...
After a few seconds (felt longer) everything settled down and suprisingly everyone was quiet (too shocked to say/do anything!) and the captain came and said "terribly sorry for the ladies and gentleman but we almost landed on a 747 taking off".
Apparently an ATC mixup...
Oh - there was a time flying from Texas back to Blighty when a few moments after takeoff an annoucement came on saying "Emergency! Would all passengers assume the brace position immediately for an emergency water landing!"
That was an attendant pressing the wrong button - she wanted to turn on the inflight entertainment but got it wrong...
peterperkins said:
Bloody Hell that was close!
Reminds me of the air show were the computer flew the A320 plane into the trees!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_x4_YGeyQs
Reminds me of the air show were the computer flew the A320 plane into the trees!
www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_x4_YGeyQs
That was a pilot error... He screwed up the pass and just pulled back on the stick which would have stalled the aircraft. The computers didn't allow it waiting for the engines to power up but there wasn't time.
crisisjez said:
Le Sarthe said:
Reminds me of a flight on TAP once into Heathrow where the pilot seemed to want to land on the grass verge of the runway then at the last second change his mind and lurch across on the asphalt with a similarly alarming dip of the wings close to the ground which bounced us on to one wheel and then the other - took longer to stop than a 747 - oh we were in a 737. Bit scary
Crosswind landings always have the passengers looking down the runway out of the side windows.
You kick the drift off with the rudder just as the main wheels touch down so the nose points down the runway.
Sometimes if the crosswind is really strong you land into wind wheels first so you can get theee bumps main gera left and right plus nosegear.
The first technique is the Crab
The second is the Wing Down
Most Pilots combine the two untill close to the ground. (unless you fly airbus which won`t let you)
Here's a you-tube link that illustrates your point quite nicely
I've done it in a light aircraft but a 200ton+ 747... Top piloting there.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yKNIB6M
Edited by ads_green on Friday 21st September 10:22
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