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Bonnie and Clyde

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11,701 posts

215 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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I want to take an advanced driving course. I know i'm not a bad driver by any means but there are cetain situations that i find myself in where i feel i lack confidence. i.e sideways action in the rain. I feel that driving such a powerful car i should know how to react to a situation rather than fear it. (Thanx to an angry ex BF in a Mustang GT, on a sand road when i lived in the states)
Any idea's what my next step is in confronting my fears? Any advice would be appreciated
Could really do with somewhere near the mids/staffs
Thanx
Mel

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

234 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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Try the advanced driving section on the main forums. Will depend what sort of driving you want though.

ads_green

838 posts

255 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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Have a word with Andy Walsh at www.carlimits.com/. Can't rate him highly enough.

Great reputation and expert tuition. It's in your own car which makes it quite cheap. Usually held at North Weald Airfield so very safe with nothing to hit (maybe a cone if you are very unlucky).

Best done when you about to change wheels.

Bonnie and Clyde

Original Poster:

11,701 posts

215 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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Thanx for the advice. Car limits looks like the one. Just had new rubber though so i'm not sure if its the best time. Not sure if Col would be to happy with me. Thanx again
Mel

Demolition Man

1,050 posts

276 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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It's you that makes it go sideways on a wet road......Hopefully you can control yourself It's other people that really throw a spanner in the works, add that unexpectedness and IMHO are the real danger.

Try doing a IAM course. I know they have a reputation for being old blokes with caps, but if you get the right instructor, you can 'make progress' rather rapidly. Your awareness of the road and other road users increase significantly and because you position yourself on the road better, your speed increases automatically.

I think they do a 6 lesson & test package for about £100.... You get cheaper insurance once passed - best £100 I have ever spent (especially after doing my IAM bike test).

GreenV8S

30,999 posts

307 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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Demolition Man said:
Try doing a IAM course.
That's worth doing, but don't expect to be taught anything about handling the car on the limit. The emphasis is all about staying well clear of situations where that might become necessary.

Demolition Man

1,050 posts

276 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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GreenV8S said:
Demolition Man said:
Try doing a IAM course.


That's worth doing, but don't expect to be taught anything about handling the car on the limit. The emphasis is all about staying well clear of situations where that might become necessary.


Exactly - There are 'advanced car control' courses and there are 'advanced driving' courses.

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

234 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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First learn to avoid a situation then learn to get yourself out of it. Do it right before you learn to do it 'wrong'.

Bonnie and Clyde

Original Poster:

11,701 posts

215 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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In normal driving conditions i'm fine. It's in the wet or when there's a chance of loosing control of it that worries me. I'd like to be able to drift without bottling it

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

234 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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Bonnie and Clyde said:
In normal driving conditions i'm fine. It's in the wet or when there's a chance of loosing control of it that worries me. I'd like to be able to drift without bottling it
drifting is not a good idea on roads.. it tends to put people off - far better to avoid the drift and know how to identify when it may occur. Monaro's are pretty stable even in the wet even driven progressively.

You want to be dealing with skid correction not drifting.

Unless your just wanting to go drifting in which case you can find courses for that.

Bonnie and Clyde

Original Poster:

11,701 posts

215 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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Mr_annie_vxr said:
Bonnie and Clyde said:
In normal driving conditions i'm fine. It's in the wet or when there's a chance of loosing control of it that worries me. I'd like to be able to drift without bottling it


drifting is not a good idea on roads.. it tends to put people off - far better to avoid the drift and know how to identify when it may occur. Monaro's are pretty stable even in the wet even driven progressively.

You want to be dealing with skid correction not drifting.

Unless your just wanting to go drifting in which case you can find courses for that.


I would'nt ever drift on the roads. I'd maybe take a driftin course after i sort out the main issue. It is really skid correction. If for example i'm crossing an island in the wet or theres oil on the road etc i get really freaked out if the back end snakes. I do know(i think) how to correct it but i get so scared (again thank to the ex as he almost killed us)i just panic. I feel i'm a good driver but its holding me back from being a very good driver.

Mr_annie_vxr

9,270 posts

234 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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Bonnie and Clyde said:
Mr_annie_vxr said:
Bonnie and Clyde said:
In normal driving conditions i'm fine. It's in the wet or when there's a chance of loosing control of it that worries me. I'd like to be able to drift without bottling it
drifting is not a good idea on roads.. it tends to put people off - far better to avoid the drift and know how to identify when it may occur. Monaro's are pretty stable even in the wet even driven progressively.

You want to be dealing with skid correction not drifting.

Unless your just wanting to go drifting in which case you can find courses for that.
I would'nt ever drift on the roads. I'd maybe take a driftin course after i sort out the main issue. It is really skid correction. If for example i'm crossing an island in the wet or theres oil on the road etc i get really freaked out if the back end snakes. I do know(i think) how to correct it but i get so scared (again thank to the ex as he almost killed us)i just panic. I feel i'm a good driver but its holding me back from being a very good driver.
Iam will include access to skid correction training and enable you to improve your other driving abilities. Then a track course to improve understanding of vehicle stability and dynamics.

Bonnie and Clyde

Original Poster:

11,701 posts

215 months

Saturday 13th September 2008
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Brilliant thanks

crisisjez

9,209 posts

228 months

Monday 15th September 2008
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Carlimits is the one for you Mel.
You need to know whats going on with your car on and beyond the limits in order to know where they are and stay within them.
One day won`t make you an expert but it will make you more comfortable and less likely to freeze should you overcook it at anytime.
IAM wont teach you limit control, in fact they are actively against it determining it unnecessary.

stevemj

919 posts

219 months

Monday 15th September 2008
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I'm a man (and man enough to not claim to be a 'good' driver - its all relative!) and have also thought about some driver training and looked at IAM a few years ago (after I drove into the back of a truck on an icy road - my fault doh!), but haven't done so through procrastination.

I did look at skid training earlier this year and these people looked a good price www.bedspolicepartnership.org/gaps3-txt.htm. However, when I tried to book something for this summer they had a long waiting list.

After a track day I realised I was pretty cr@p and searched for a course for some help there - most seemed aimed at people who wanted to become pro or semi pro or for 'tear round the track for 15 mins'; not for someone to be taken from cr@p to a bit better.

Hope this helps

Steve

Harryoz

1,016 posts

248 months

Monday 15th September 2008
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I can also recommend Colin at http://www.catdrivertraining.co.uk/

They use Milbrook as their venue so great access to facilities to improve a range of skills.

Bonnie and Clyde

Original Poster:

11,701 posts

215 months

Tuesday 16th September 2008
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Thanks for all the advice. Sorry for the delay in reply. I'll let you know how i get onthumbup