Reasonbly priced car ??
Reasonbly priced car ??
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SimonV8ster

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12,912 posts

251 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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Does this seem reasonably priced to you ?? Not much detail in the advert so have emailed the seller for more info but does this seem like a reasonble price ??

Anything to watch for with this model ? Its the same as the 2000/2001 model ?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/734288.htm

MyM8V8

9,468 posts

218 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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SimonV8ster said:
Does this seem reasonably priced to you ?? Not much detail in the advert so have emailed the seller for more info but does this seem like a reasonble price ??

Anything to watch for with this model ? Its the same as the 2000/2001 model ?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/734288.htm
Great entry price into this marque. Just check everything you would on a "normal" car. You might haggle him down a bit more.

Well_Fans

4,193 posts

247 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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think thats been up for sale for some time now on and off and sure it started a lot higher than he's now asking.

ringram

14,701 posts

271 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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Its the holden V8 which is old skool design from the 60's smile

Well it has some minor enhancements like Alloy heads. Low down torque is good, but its definately out of huff earlier I think redline is probably 5500.
But its not a bad price considering. COME Racing has some nice strokers for it and most body and other parts will be the same as the LS1 cars.

Actually you will want to check displacement, looks like the clubsports were only 5L not 5.7L

Edited by ringram on Sunday 5th October 13:39

MyM8V8

9,468 posts

218 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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ringram said:
Its the holden V8 which is old skool design from the 60's smile

Well it has some minor enhancements like Alloy heads. Low down torque is good, but its definately out of huff earlier I think redline is probably 5500.
But its not a bad price considering. COME Racing has some nice strokers for it and most body and other parts will be the same as the LS1 cars.

Actually you will want to check displacement, looks like the clubsports were only 5L not 5.7L

Edited by ringram on Sunday 5th October 13:39
Description says its a 5.7 in which case it would be LS1. Best to check if it is, or not, or like Rich says it will be the Holden 5 litre.

Some of the "Purists" would argue that it would be a "proper" Holden though.

SimonV8ster

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251 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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Well_Fans said:
think thats been up for sale for some time now on and off and sure it started a lot higher than he's now asking.
Really ? Hadn't seen it advertised before, been keeping my eyes peeled as well. Emailed him but no response yet.

MyM8V8

9,468 posts

218 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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Sorry, had a look at the picture enlarged. It's a 5 litre Holden motor.

SimonV8ster

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251 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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MyM8V8 said:
Sorry, had a look at the picture enlarged. It's a 5 litre Holden motor.
So thats the older iron block motor then ?? The must have changed to the 5.7 around that time or soon after ?

ringram

14,701 posts

271 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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Yes VT series 1 is holden engine, vt series 2 is LS1
However Holden also did a 5.7 which was the 5L with a stroker crank so 5.7 doesnt always = LS1
Thats to catch people out who dont pay attention smile

Have a look down here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holden_Special_Vehicl...

Now if the GTS for sale follows the same convention as the R8 in the VT2 being renamed for some stupid reason in the UK to GTS then thats not a 5.7L
However if its a genuine GTS then it will be the 220kw holden 5.7L engine.

Maybe the owner can confirm? The HSV plate should show its proper model if lucky.

ringram

14,701 posts

271 months

Sunday 5th October 2008
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There is an SS Commodore around the same price with an LS1 in it plus some good mods. I knew the guy who had it years ago.

It doesnt have HSV brakes etc, but they go cheap on ebay. Just add some good shocks and springs and there you go.

tim the pool man

5,864 posts

240 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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Here's the Redbook link for this model. Engine code "stroker" so I guess it is the Holden not LS1.

1999HSV GTS


ETA that assumes that the 1999 as advertised really is the build date and not some random date the vendor has decided to use, like date of first registration or something equally irrelevant... wink

Edited by tim the pool man on Monday 6th October 04:32

ringram

14,701 posts

271 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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Yeah look at peak power and torque too. Much lower down.
Also dont forget to check that its a proper GTS the VT2 models were called GTS as well but they were not an Oz GTS they were an Oz R8 Clubsport!

monkfish1

12,234 posts

247 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Bear in mind your tuning options are severly limited with this car. There was another one for sale too, a red one for 5K.

crisisjez

9,209 posts

228 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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tim the pool man said:


ETA that assumes that the 1999 as advertised really is the build date and not some random date the vendor has decided to use, like date of first registration or something equally irrelevant...

Edited by tim the pool man on Monday 6th October 04:32


Unless you live in the UK

tim the pool man

5,864 posts

240 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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crisisjez said:
tim the pool man said:
ETA that assumes that the 1999 as advertised really is the build date and not some random date the vendor has decided to use, like date of first registration or something equally irrelevant... wink

Edited by tim the pool man on Monday 6th October 04:32
Unless you live in the UK smile
Not at all, you can't look up the spec of a car based on anything except it's build date.

crisisjez

9,209 posts

228 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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tim the pool man said:
crisisjez said:
tim the pool man said:


ETA that assumes that the 1999 as advertised really is the build date and not some random date the vendor has decided to use, like date of first registration or something equally irrelevant...

Edited by tim the pool man on Monday 6th October 04:32


Unless you live in the UK


Not at all, you can't look up the spec of a car based on anything except it's build date.


Unless you live in the UK.

Give it up mate you don`t understand the registration system over here, even the dealers parts departments use reggy`s for parts identification.

We NEVER get asked `what year was your car built` over here.

That will be the date of first registration taken directly from the numberplate.

When a car is imported it is either declared new by the manufacturer, or it is not.
In the event the car is not, then it is allocated an age related plate, so for instance your theoretical 1970 Falcon would, at first registration here be given a `J` suffix plate which identifies it as a 1970 car from as far away as its possible to read the plate and it can never be updated to one of a newer issue.
If the car`s age cannot be determined it is issued with a `Q` plate and this makes the car practically worthless over here (dependant on model of course)
For example if an 05 reg and built VXR was worth £18K a Q reg model would be lucky to get £7000 if it sold.
We also refer to our speed in MPH and use HP which is DIFFERENT as well




But I can see how the confusion happened............


CUSTOMS OFFICE....somewhere in the UK


OFFICER.... Is this car newly manufactured?

IMPORTER....Oh yeah mate she`s right, fair dinkum.



Edited by crisisjez on Wednesday 8th October 09:09

tim the pool man

5,864 posts

240 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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crisisjez said:
Unless you live in the UK.smile

Give it up mate you don`t understand the registration system over here, even the dealers parts departments use reggy`s for parts identification.
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You'll never convince me, you're trying to justify a system which only exists so that the Jones' can see that their neighbours have bought a new car rolleyes

To buy genuine parts here you actually need the VIN, which is the only thing that truly identifies the vehicle. Just saying it's an '04 VZ for example, wouldn't be enough because quite often specs change during the year or model.

I would bet that there are cars in England with 05 reg, some of which will be '04 V2s and some 04 or 05 VZs. Now tell me all they need is the 05 reg to find the right parts?

of course they could use the reg to access the VIN but that's not what you said...

crisisjez

9,209 posts

228 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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tim the pool man said:
crisisjez said:

Unless you live in the UK.

Give it up mate you don`t understand the registration system over here, even the dealers parts departments use reggy`s for parts identification.
...


You'll never convince me, you're trying to justify a system which only exists so that the Jones' can see that their neighbours have bought a new car rolleyes

To buy genuine parts here you actually need the VIN, which is the only thing that truly identifies the vehicle. Just saying it's an '04 VZ for example, wouldn't be enough because quite often specs change during the year or model.

I would bet that there are cars in England with 05 reg, some of which will be '04 V2s and some 04 or 05 VZs. Now tell me all they need is the 05 reg to find the right parts?

of course they could use the reg to access the VIN but that's not what you said...



Don`t have to justify the system mate, it is what it is.

But if you keep banging on about something you obviously have absolutely no idea about then it kinda say`s `small town boy`

The worlds a big place and things don`t always get done the same way.




monkfish1

12,234 posts

247 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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tim the pool man said:
crisisjez said:

Unless you live in the UK.

Give it up mate you don`t understand the registration system over here, even the dealers parts departments use reggy`s for parts identification.
...


You'll never convince me, you're trying to justify a system which only exists so that the Jones' can see that their neighbours have bought a new car rolleyes

To buy genuine parts here you actually need the VIN, which is the only thing that truly identifies the vehicle. Just saying it's an '04 VZ for example, wouldn't be enough because quite often specs change during the year or model.

I would bet that there are cars in England with 05 reg, some of which will be '04 V2s and some 04 or 05 VZs. Now tell me all they need is the 05 reg to find the right parts?

of course they could use the reg to access the VIN but that's not what you said...


We dont need to convince you - its how it is

The Reg is tied to the VIN. Ring up a motor factors and they ask you for a reg. Not a VIN.

The idea of moving regs about every year is equally alien to us.

tim the pool man

5,864 posts

240 months

Wednesday 8th October 2008
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monkfish1 said:
We dont need to convince you - its how it is smile

The Reg is tied to the VIN. Ring up a motor factors and they ask you for a reg. Not a VIN.

The idea of moving regs about every year is equally alien to us.
Not sure what you mean by the last line? Our reg no's are simply consecutive.