Rip Shifter and wortec valve exhaust
Rip Shifter and wortec valve exhaust
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s11lmx

Original Poster:

248 posts

231 months

Saturday 11th October 2008
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Hi all,

I know I know, only been here like 5 minutes and I'm full of so many questions. I was had a drive in Raggy Man's HSV last weekend and I was wondering, he's got a rip shifter fitted however it buzzes a little and rattles when in use.

I'm very interested in getting one myself but I just want to check to see if anyone else gets a similar rattling/buzzing/vibration from it. It only appeared to happen when I had my hand on it mid change, however I do a lot of driving and some of it city centre, I could see that becoming very irritating.

Also does anyone on here have a VXR with the wortec valve system, I know I asked previously and Monkfish offered me a drive in their demo car, however it's a bit far for me to travel.

I was just wondering as to how loud it was (in quiet mode) under normal driving. I do quite a bit of motorway cruising and I'd hate it to drone or be intrusive into the cabin.

I'm loving the almost silent V8 power that the VXR has, I do wish it would burble a little more, but also behave when I want it to.

I'm still waiting for DAP performance to get back to me regards the stock/fitting for the exhaust, remap and shifter. I will chase it up ... or I may just drive to Monkfish as everyone appears to rate him/them highly.

Thanks in advance

Sii

anonymous-user

77 months

Saturday 11th October 2008
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Hi Sii,

I've got both. No buzzing or vibration from the RipShifter.

For the exhaust, on quiet I liken it to a TVR sound - same sort of volume and deep growl. On loud it is more like a Ferrari - louder and with a raspy edge. Sounds absolutely awesome on the overrun as well - lots of pops!

Neither give drone in the cabin. I leave mine on Loud pretty much the whole time!

Where I work we have a large underground carpark - I always enter that in first gear and floor it - with my windows open!! Childish I know - but heh!

monkfish1

12,234 posts

247 months

Saturday 11th October 2008
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The buzzing is caused by the fit between the knob and the steel shaft, not the ripshifter itself. This can occur on any car rippy fitted or otherwise, but the pre facelift models (like Raggys) are much more prone to it (different knob). The knob needs re-gluing to stop it.

s11lmx

Original Poster:

248 posts

231 months

Saturday 11th October 2008
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cheers gents, Monkfish seeing as you can reply to this post quicker on a saturday than DAP performance can reply to an email (wanting to give them money) midweek I think you may have just got some business from me.

Cheers gents

monkfish1

12,234 posts

247 months

Saturday 11th October 2008
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I know its a long way, but don't forget we can supply a free courtesy car while we do any work. Probably our demonstrator

anonymous-user

77 months

Saturday 11th October 2008
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I have a B&M quickshifter and it doesn't rattle at all. £299 fitted.

http://www.hsv.org.uk/topic.asp.?h=27&t=528593...

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 11th October 14:11

anonymous-user

77 months

Saturday 11th October 2008
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I have a ripshifter fitted to my '04 Monaro CV8. It buzzes a lot in 4th and 5th gears, I while back I asked if it should do this. Some people have no rattling problems with the ripshifter, some do. Answer I got then was that there are 2 versions of the ripshifter - a race (rattler) and a road version (which doesn't rattle) and I must have the race version fitted. But I'm wondering if this is true - if the vibration noise is coming from the lever/knob junction (rather than the mechanics of the ripshifter below) then surely it should be possible to insulate/re-fit the gear knob somehow? But I've heard stories of the gear knob breaking if it's not removed/fitted in a certain way? Has anyone succesfully cured a rattling ripper?

ringram

14,701 posts

271 months

Saturday 11th October 2008
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Dont worry, the VXR8 model does it too. You are supposed to use loads of silicon sealant on the top of the shaft before refitting the nob. I didnt smile
But will redo it again soon. I didnt want to put so much on that it wouldnt come off. I had the race on my my VT2 and that was fine. Like Roger says its the nob not the rest of it.

jumplead

1,823 posts

235 months

Saturday 11th October 2008
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Dads '05 CV8 does it in 3rd and 4th when cold with the slush shifter still fitted. I think he just puts it down to a quirk characteristic of the car now.

idea Maybe he should get the ripshifter to make it go away.

wolfracer

2,074 posts

229 months

Saturday 11th October 2008
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Wortec's Don't Drone.
End of.
Good rear muffler takes out any drone. Mine is all motorway driving and is pretty much silent "trundling" along at 70 ish. It's only when you press the proverbial "loud" pedal that it gets, well, you know, "loud!"
Had mine fitted to permanent loud and enjoy evey minute.
It's loud but not "boy racer" loud if you know what i mean. I think you can get away with a louder exhaust because of the V8. Had droney exhausts before and can appreciate the difference.
As for the ripshifter, well its like having a different gearbox in - very precise, solid feel compared to slack standard.

monkfish1

12,234 posts

247 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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Noose said:


Roger I'm the Black VXR8 auto build 104 booked in on the Tuseday.

Edited by Noose on Sunday 12th October 02:18


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granada203028

1,500 posts

220 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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It has been posted before that the rip shifter is the solution to gear lever buzz, so it is interesting that some still find problems with it. I changed my gear box from the MM6 to the M12 type for the better ratios. Both behave much the same with the standard shifter. I get the worst buzz between 2 - 3000 rpm in 2nd. Both were perhaps a little better when new. I'm still a bit puzzled what actually buzzes. The stock shifter appears fairly well engineered to me and I slightly struggle to see how the rip shifter can improve on it. The weaknesses in the gearbox really go a bit deeper, the slow synchromesh which bulks easily and vibration which is transmitted from the rotating assembly to the shift rod. The pictures show the standard shifter from my old now spare gearbox. Doesn't really have much slop in it and I get on with it fine - yes sure occasionally get lost in the gate but same as in any manual car.



monkfish1

12,234 posts

247 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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granada203028 said:
It has been posted before that the rip shifter is the solution to gear lever buzz, so it is interesting that some still find problems with it. I changed my gear box from the MM6 to the M12 type for the better ratios. Both behave much the same with the standard shifter. I get the worst buzz between 2 - 3000 rpm in 2nd. Both were perhaps a little better when new. I'm still a bit puzzled what actually buzzes. The stock shifter appears fairly well engineered to me and I slightly struggle to see how the rip shifter can improve on it. The weaknesses in the gearbox really go a bit deeper, the slow synchromesh which bulks easily and vibration which is transmitted from the rotating assembly to the shift rod. The pictures show the standard shifter from my old now spare gearbox. Doesn't really have much slop in it and I get on with it fine - yes sure occasionally get lost in the gate but same as in any manual car.





As ive said before the rattle comes from the interface between the knob and the shaft.

Can i suggest you drive a rippy fitted car. I think you may be surprised.

ringram

14,701 posts

271 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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GTO shifter dude

ringram

14,701 posts

271 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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monkfish1 said:
Noose said:
Roger I'm the Black VXR8 auto build 104 booked in on the Tuseday.
rotaterotate
And mine will be build number 1 which "hopefully" will be able to be squashed in next week? Will call to discuss delivery of a certain crated item prior to then.

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v2rac

463 posts

222 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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[quote=granada203028]It has been posted before that the rip shifter is the solution to gear lever buzz, so it is interesting that some still find problems with it. I changed my gear box from the MM6 to the M12 type for the better ratios. Both behave much the same with the standard shifter. I get the worst buzz between 2 - 3000 rpm in 2nd. Both were perhaps a little better when new. I'm still a bit puzzled what actually buzzes. The stock shifter appears fairly well engineered to me and I slightly struggle to see how the rip shifter can improve on it. The weaknesses in the gearbox really go a bit deeper, the slow synchromesh which bulks easily and vibration which is transmitted from the rotating assembly to the shift rod. The pictures show the standard shifter from my old now spare gearbox. Doesn't really have much slop in it and I get on with it fine - yes sure occasionally get lost in the gate but same as in any manual car.



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Granada. In your second pic of the stock shifter, is that black substance around the base that bolts to the top of the box actually a gasket and if so is that also stock? The reason I ask is because I read, that when the shifter is bolted to the gearbox during manufacture there is NO gasket, just a smear of RTV. This practice apparently amplifies the mechanical noise transmitted into the cabin. In view of this I bought an after market gasket (yet to fit) from the States. Just checking if my info is correct. Cheers in advance.



Edited by v2rac on Wednesday 15th October 15:26

ringram

14,701 posts

271 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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Yes my Rip Shifter had no gasket. Just sealant that you need to supply.

granada203028

1,500 posts

220 months

Wednesday 15th October 2008
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It is a stock rubber gasket. Looks like the new box had one to.



Edited by granada203028 on Wednesday 15th October 19:10

v2rac

463 posts

222 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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granada203028 said:
It is a stock rubber gasket. Looks like the new box had one to.



Edited by granada203028 on Wednesday 15th October 19:10


Sorry, Didn't mean the round rubber ones that sit on the stub of the lever as per above pic. I meant,on one of your previous pics it clearly shows what appears to be a black rectangular gasket on the base of the shifter housing that would mate with the top of the gearbox casing. (Four bolts to secure) My info is, the factory doesn't fit a gasket in this position, as cofirmed by Ringram. Just wondering why, (if this is the case) has yours got one?
Am about to fit an aftermarket one and don't want to strip it down to discover a gasket already fitted in place.Cheers.