Exhaust flames
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madmunky

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631 posts

211 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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Do monaros/LS1/LS2 ever produce flames out the exhaust when modded?

Just wondered if anyones actually does this?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxldsh-ZhCo

Surely flames = bad map/over fueling?

jamiep

1,791 posts

242 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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Thats got one of the chavy propane kits on it surely?

madmunky

Original Poster:

631 posts

211 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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If you had a F430 would you really wanna stick something like that on it, surely the owner isnt that sad..

Hows the supra Jamie?

jamiep

1,791 posts

242 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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He sprayed it orange biggrin

Yeah its all good thanks.

madmunky

Original Poster:

631 posts

211 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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Oi, nowt wrong with orange cars tongue out

madmunky

Original Poster:

631 posts

211 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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whistle
getmecoat

MEATLOAF

35 posts

207 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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Mine pops flames out the sides and for the record the Ferrari F430 does
pop blue flames out the back as standard.

jamiep

1,791 posts

242 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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anonymous-user

77 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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mine does....on the dyno.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 31st January 18:08

robkarloff

312 posts

226 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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Retard the timing a bunch on the over-run and away you go...

TTLS1

140 posts

230 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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jamiep said:
Hmmm might be time to have the tune checked, seems to be expeienceing a little glazing on plug 7...a little too rich I think buddy.

rear/mid mounted engines are perfect for a little flame action hey guys......but I'd never know, never had one unlike half the forum.

Bonnie and Clyde

11,701 posts

215 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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I love to see flames out of the exhausts. What causes it? Is it unused fuel burning? I remember being behind a Escort Cosworth on the M6 and every time he changed gears it did thatcloud9 I was going a little bit madbounce to be fair I don't know what he'd done to it, but it was great
I loved watching the Holdens race at Bathurstcloud9. The flames really look awesomeyes

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

283 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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^ Could be caused by fuel being dumped into the turbo to keep it spinning fast. Not good for turbo life but that's irrelevant on a race car. On an ordinary car it could be excessive camshaft overlap or extra fuelling during throttle lift off. The fuel burns in the exhaust pipe.

Then there are the afterburner kits inside the tailpipe.

ads_green

838 posts

255 months

Saturday 31st January 2009
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Yes it's unburnt fuel.

You can get it via a number of ways however the easiest is as said by tweaking the mapping.
Most modern cars for fuel economy and emissions shut fuel off as soon as the throttle is released - switch this off and you'll get incomplete combustion in the chambers and on hitting the hot exhaust will flames.

One thing you need to be very careful of is the other reason for shutting fuel off on the overrun - when unburnt fuel hits the cat it also combusts and can rapidly overheat the cat. At best it'll reduce it's lifespan considerably as it runs hundreds of degrees hotter. Worst case, it can overload the heat shielding and cause a fire. I know of at least one car (admitidly an aluminium / plastic Lotus) that was lost as the owner forgot to remove the car when changing to the ECU over for a track mapping.

S600VXR

5,877 posts

223 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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Boosted LS1 said:
^ Could be caused by fuel being dumped into the turbo to keep it spinning fast. Not good for turbo life but that's irrelevant on a race car. On an ordinary car it could be excessive camshaft overlap or extra fuelling during throttle lift off. The fuel burns in the exhaust pipe.

Then there are the afterburner kits inside the tailpipe.
Got it in one. Dumping fuel into the exhaust causes the turbo to keep spinning, hence no lag whilst changing gear. Used to be called anti-lag kits. I also followed an escort cosworth years ago with one fitted and it shot flames out and poped all over the shop, the lack of lag was noticable mind so they obviously worked. My old Sierra Cosworth did it alot after I fitted Grey injectors to it since I was running 35psi boost and they simply dumped to much fuel in when the throttle was closed between gears. In non turbo cars its caused by over fueling when you shut off and is bad for both economy and your cats!

Paul.H.

510 posts

239 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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What cats? whistle

Hex

568 posts

218 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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Paul.H. said:
What cats? whistle
The ones you toast as they wander behind you hehe

Paul.H.

510 posts

239 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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...thought I could smell something - thought I needed a shower at first! hehe

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

233 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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I'd love a flame kit in mine and also some viper stripes on the bonnet/roof also I quite like spinner alloys. Does anyone know of a make of spinners that will fit the Ro?

Bonnie and Clyde

11,701 posts

215 months

Sunday 1st February 2009
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stigmundfreud said:
I'd love a flame kit in mine and also some viper stripes on the bonnet/roof also I quite like spinner alloys. Does anyone know of a make of spinners that will fit the Ro?
rolleyes