Think I've seen my new car

[C8PPO]

Well, I saw a new Nissan GTR on the road on Sunday. Have been drooling at them ever since they first appeared in the press a year or so back, but now I've seen one in the flesh, they look 100% better than they did. Big, big car with a hell of a lot of presence - oh, hang on, I've already got one like that!!

But it looked VERY .......

[Ads_green]

They are nice but the warranty restrictions are rubbish. a friend cancelled their order after a nissan track day. The minimum setting required for keeping the warranty effectivley killed the performance.

[madmunky]

Would deffently love to have one of these at some point, maybe in a couple of years

[stigmundfreud]

having been on the rough end of Nissan ownership I can honestly say their dealer network ruined the complete owner experience (350z). They made our Vauxhall dealers look like God.

For the price I would be putting my hard earnd onto an Aston Martin

[EssexVXR8]

My experience of Nissan Ownership has also been totally overshadowed by the worst dealer network ive ever experienced. I would never touch a Nissan again thanks to the dealer experience which means that last year they lost out on a Nissan Note got a Suzuki Splash instead (wifes car), Nissan Patrol im running the old one into the ground, would have liked a new one but they dont deserve the sale, (family runaround) and Nissan GT-R the warranty is a joke at the best of times with Nissan dealers in the UK let alone on the GT-R so i bought a VXR8 instead

[Well_Fans]

there's a Monaro owner up here selling his supercharged VXR to take ownership of the new Nissan, so I heard anyway - wonder if he knows what he's letting himself in for.....

[kiwifraser]

Or you could get one of these for less money, and not necessarily in Orange either

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/988107.htm

[willisit]

kiwifraser said:

Or you could get one of these for less money, and not necessarily in Orange either

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/988107.htm

DO WANT (sorry for yelling...)

[C8PPO]

kiwifraser said:

Or you could get one of these for less money, and not necessarily in Orange either

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/988107.htm

Yes, that rather puts things in perspective - at least that would never be mistaken for a 350Z on steroids!

[Well_Fans]

isnt it like 4k for a service on that lambo though? I'd still rather have it than the Jap wagon but service costs are not insignificant.

[C8PPO]

Was told earlier that the annual/12k service on the ricer is c. £3500+VAT......

[v2rac]

Ads_green said:

They are nice but the warranty restrictions are rubbish. a friend cancelled their order after a nissan track day. The minimum setting required for keeping the warranty effectivley killed the performance.

Ads please explain the minimum setting caper. Is it adjustable turbo boost?

Edited by v2rac on Wednesday 15th April 13:18

Edited by v2rac on Wednesday 15th April 13:21

[maverick964_uk]

yes the lambo would be better. I love the Gallardo!. Been monitoring prices for sometime now....

Anyway, yes I love the GTR and I saw one at LeMans last year. Would love one!!! HOWEVER......

a mate of mine put a deposit on one but has recently got it refunded. Below is what he discovered. I think its from a porsche site......

Here's all the details regards why the GTR is not the car to get.

Nissan GTR
6,000 mile service (or 6 months) £683.00 inc vat
12,000 mile service (or 6 months) £683.00 inc vat
Please note that the below costs are tentative costs and subject to final confirmation and change.
Maintenance Inspections
A performance optimisation service will be carried out at 1500 miles (mileage subject to final confirmation).
Maintenance Inspections will then be carried out at 12, 24 and 36 months.
These first four Maintenance Inspections are included in the price of your GT-R.
Costs of any future Maintenance Inspections will be announced at an appropriate date in the future.

Scheduled Servicing
The service interval for the GT-R is 6000 miles/6 months whichever comes sooner.
Tentative service cost examples have been provided by Nissan and are as follows (the following examples are an annual cost based on the quoted mileage):
Up to 12,000 miles per annum:
£785 for scheduled servicing
£4150 for scheduled servicing and replacement of brake discs and pads all round.

18,000 miles per annum:
£1725 for scheduled servicing
£5090 for scheduled servicing and replacement of brake discs and pads all round.
Cost of replacement tyres will be announced as soon as prices are available
911 Turbo is £474 every 12,000 miles or 2 years & £605 for major service 24,0000 miles or 4 years
Just for comparison purposes, the Porsche 997 Service prices are here:
www.porsche.com/filestore.asp...letype=default
Transmission oil should be changed every 120,000 miles or 12 years, as compared to every 1,800 in the GTR if you use the throttle (as stated in the manual)!
Just doing a quick comparison of GTR vs Porsche 997TT (so both 4wd, twin-turbo, 480bhp cars).

Services over 12,000 miles:
GTR requires two services total cost £784
Porsche requires one @ £463

Brakes.
GTR Front Discs/Pads = £1,704
997TT as above = £939
GTR Rear Discs/Pads = £1,522
997TT as above = £839

So basically if we add up all three of the above and assume a 12,000 mile ownership and a complete set of front/rear brake all round we get:
GTR = £4,010
997TT= £2,241

So the GTR costs 80% more than a 997TT to run on normal servicing/parts.
This of course excludes the £446 cost of transmission fluid in the GTR that occurs every 18,000 miles vs £124 every 120,000 miles in the 997TT. Interesting that Porsches 7 speed twin-clutch system needs one fluid change over 120,000 miles, whereas Nissans 6 speed twin-clutch system requires more than 6 fluid changes over the same period


facts from Nissan on the situation regarding 'VDC off', the warranty requirements regarding track-use, or indeed confirmed details of servicing or tyre costs.

Servicing costs over 12,000 miles including brakes of circa £4,000.
Servicing/brake costs that are nearly or more than twice that of a Porsche 997 Turbo that costs double the price to buy.
A requirement for pre/post trackday inspections
Voiding of warranty between these dates
Voiding of warranty if the VDC is turned off.

All of these conditions and prices are completely at odds with what was expected at the time of placing the deposit, for a car that was advertised as "Anytime, Anywhere" and where the sales materials and indeed the driving introduction focussed almost entirely on it's track performance. This is also massively at odds with the requirements of manufacturers of the main competitor products, such as Porsche, Lamborghini, Ferrari and BMW, . None of them void warranty for track-use, other than due to 'abuse', or require any special pre/post-trackday inspections.

[C8PPO]

maverick964_uk said:

a mate of mine put a deposit on one but has recently got it refunded.

Would that mate be a certain J.C. perchance???

[r1mark]

maverick964_uk said:

yes the lambo would be better. I love the Gallardo!. Been monitoring prices for sometime now....

Anyway, yes I love the GTR and I saw one at LeMans last year. Would love one!!! HOWEVER......

a mate of mine put a deposit on one but has recently got it refunded. Below is what he discovered. I think its from a porsche site......

Here's all the details regards why the GTR is not the car to get.

Nissan GTR
6,000 mile service (or 6 months) £683.00 inc vat
12,000 mile service (or 6 months) £683.00 inc vat
Please note that the below costs are tentative costs and subject to final confirmation and change.
Maintenance Inspections
A performance optimisation service will be carried out at 1500 miles (mileage subject to final confirmation).
Maintenance Inspections will then be carried out at 12, 24 and 36 months.
These first four Maintenance Inspections are included in the price of your GT-R.
Costs of any future Maintenance Inspections will be announced at an appropriate date in the future.

Scheduled Servicing
The service interval for the GT-R is 6000 miles/6 months whichever comes sooner.
Tentative service cost examples have been provided by Nissan and are as follows (the following examples are an annual cost based on the quoted mileage):
Up to 12,000 miles per annum:
£785 for scheduled servicing
£4150 for scheduled servicing and replacement of brake discs and pads all round.

18,000 miles per annum:
£1725 for scheduled servicing
£5090 for scheduled servicing and replacement of brake discs and pads all round.
Cost of replacement tyres will be announced as soon as prices are available
911 Turbo is £474 every 12,000 miles or 2 years & £605 for major service 24,0000 miles or 4 years
Just for comparison purposes, the Porsche 997 Service prices are here:
www.porsche.com/filestore.asp...letype=default
Transmission oil should be changed every 120,000 miles or 12 years, as compared to every 1,800 in the GTR if you use the throttle (as stated in the manual)!
Just doing a quick comparison of GTR vs Porsche 997TT (so both 4wd, twin-turbo, 480bhp cars).

Services over 12,000 miles:
GTR requires two services total cost £784
Porsche requires one @ £463

Brakes.
GTR Front Discs/Pads = £1,704
997TT as above = £939
GTR Rear Discs/Pads = £1,522
997TT as above = £839

So basically if we add up all three of the above and assume a 12,000 mile ownership and a complete set of front/rear brake all round we get:
GTR = £4,010
997TT= £2,241

So the GTR costs 80% more than a 997TT to run on normal servicing/parts.
This of course excludes the £446 cost of transmission fluid in the GTR that occurs every 18,000 miles vs £124 every 120,000 miles in the 997TT. Interesting that Porsches 7 speed twin-clutch system needs one fluid change over 120,000 miles, whereas Nissans 6 speed twin-clutch system requires more than 6 fluid changes over the same period


facts from Nissan on the situation regarding 'VDC off', the warranty requirements regarding track-use, or indeed confirmed details of servicing or tyre costs.

Servicing costs over 12,000 miles including brakes of circa £4,000.
Servicing/brake costs that are nearly or more than twice that of a Porsche 997 Turbo that costs double the price to buy.
A requirement for pre/post trackday inspections
Voiding of warranty between these dates
Voiding of warranty if the VDC is turned off.

All of these conditions and prices are completely at odds with what was expected at the time of placing the deposit, for a car that was advertised as "Anytime, Anywhere" and where the sales materials and indeed the driving introduction focussed almost entirely on it's track performance. This is also massively at odds with the requirements of manufacturers of the main competitor products, such as Porsche, Lamborghini, Ferrari and BMW, . None of them void warranty for track-use, other than due to 'abuse', or require any special pre/post-trackday inspections.

Can I ask where this information came from and how accurate it is?

[Magic919]

This guy looks like the source of it from his post:

http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=255...

But you know the Internet. Always the guys own work or written by a 'mate'.

[sjc]

Can confirm it's true, I cancelled for the above reasons,plus VDC, maintenance and warranty bks.

[Well_Fans]

R1mark - is it you that has one on order, that was selling the supercharged 'ro up in grampian? Hope you've got deep pockets if it is coz they prices are nasty!!

[C8PPO]

This is the real reason people are cancelling orders.....

Yes, I know it's been done before, yes, I've seen some of the other versions, etc etc etc.....

[Magic919]

C8PPO said:

This is the real reason people are cancelling orders.....

Yes, I know it's been done before, yes, I've seen some of the other versions, etc etc etc.....

When will these idiots learn it's Nurburgring? Nuremberg, now remind me...