Is there anything quicker than a 6.0 Monaro...
Is there anything quicker than a 6.0 Monaro...
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mft

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252 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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...for similar money, that's also not too old? I've been having a think, WRT opting out of the company car scheme, and can't find any.

E39 M5 - maybe, but too old. 996 911 Turbo - probably, but lots more expensive. TVRs - doubt it?

What cars give you guys a good run for your money? smile Is the Monaro the performance bargain of the decade? Hmmm... scratchchin

the muppet

669 posts

221 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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Evo's, Impreza's, all sorts of chipped hot hatches will be as quick or quicker up to legal speeds.

okgo

42,257 posts

228 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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Most TVR's will be quicker.

wolfracer

2,074 posts

236 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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Quicker or Faster?
Handling or Ride Quality?
Power or Torque?

lots of different options, but the answer to your question is YES, plenty.

S600VXR

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230 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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Late model E39 M5 would be a good choice. Tried and tested and huge amount of info around about them. My old version is great! Mind you a 6ltr Monaro would be a safe bet with some of the low prices they go for at times!

ringram

14,702 posts

278 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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The question you really should be asking yourself, is what rear wheel drive v8 with a limited slip diff and switchable traction control will do excellent donuts and powersides for better value than the monaro.

This is because basic fundamental prerequisites are;

Loads of room for tall drivers
V8 soundtrack
RWD performance
Cheap to upgrade to 600bhp

Now find me something smile

sneakygloworm

558 posts

211 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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However, other drivers don't Cr*p themselves when a Golf GTI comes up behind them.

mft

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Friday 1st May 2009
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wolfracer said:
Quicker or Faster?
Handling or Ride Quality?
Power or Torque?
Quicker - let's say, up to 120- or 130-ish. Less bothered about the top end. Handling less important. Torque is nice, but quicker is the main point. smile

wolfracer said:
lots of different options, but the answer to your question is YES, plenty.
For less than £20k? (and even nearer £15k, looking at the classifieds) You amaze me smile


EDIT: should have also mentioned, to opt out of the company scheme requires the car purchased to be <6 years old at all times - so realistically, 2004 or newer.

Edited by mft on Friday 1st May 22:39

wolfracer

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236 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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mft said:
wolfracer said:
Quicker or Faster?
Handling or Ride Quality?
Power or Torque?
Quicker - let's say, up to 120- or 130-ish. Less bothered about the top end. Handling less important. Torque is nice, but quicker is the main point.

wolfracer said:
lots of different options, but the answer to your question is YES, plenty.
For less than £20k? (and even nearer £15k, looking at the classifieds) You amaze me


EDIT: should have also mentioned, to opt out of the company scheme
requires the car purchased to be <6 years old at all times - so realistically, 2004 or newer.

Edited by mft on Friday 1st May 22:39


go to autotrader, you can get an FQ evo for 13k...which will get you to illegal speeds quicker than a Ro, but that's not the point is it?

stigmundfreud

22,454 posts

240 months

Friday 1st May 2009
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Honda s2000 smile

stevieturbo

18,099 posts

277 months

Saturday 2nd May 2009
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An M5 may be a good choice.....but if something goes wrong with it, it may cost the price of another M5 to fix it.

You'll be hard pushed to find anything remotely similar to a Monaro, with its low operating costs. There is a lot to be said for keeping a simple design.

stigmundfreud

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240 months

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stevieturbo said:
An M5 may be a good choice.....but if something goes wrong with it, it may cost the price of another M5 to fix it.

You'll be hard pushed to find anything remotely similar to a Monaro, with its low operating costs. There is a lot to be said for keeping a simple design.
Indeed! For the same price as a VXR8 you could get a nice Ferrari F348, its ultimately faster, costs similar to buy but the annual servicing cost is equivilant to 3 years servicing of the VXR8. Also Ferraris like to catch fire, often

breagh

152 posts

226 months

Saturday 2nd May 2009
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The E39 M5 appeals to me too but I do get twitchy about the cost if something goes wrong.

That said, what are the reliability issues that Monaros have?

MyM8V8

9,468 posts

225 months

Saturday 2nd May 2009
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stevieturbo said:
An M5 may be a good choice.....but if something goes wrong with it, it may cost the price of another M5 to fix it.

You'll be hard pushed to find anything remotely similar to a Monaro, with its low operating costs. There is a lot to be said for keeping a simple design.
Amazing how an ancient over head 2 valve/cylinder push rod engine can still hack it!

ringram

14,702 posts

278 months

Saturday 2nd May 2009
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Yeah head design has moved on a lot. Though that being said a lot of the chev v8 advantage is not in bhp/litre but in gross numbers due to the magic of displacement smile

crisisjez

9,209 posts

235 months

Saturday 2nd May 2009
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A heavily breathed on Astra VXR will be as quick to 120.

Edited by crisisjez on Saturday 2nd May 08:12

Drew SS

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214 months

Saturday 2nd May 2009
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crisisjez said:
A heavily breathed on Astra VXR will be as quick to 120.

Edited by crisisjez on Saturday 2nd May 08:12


seen a few turboed vl commodores bash a few monaros alright

stevieturbo

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277 months

Saturday 2nd May 2009
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breagh said:
The E39 M5 appeals to me too but I do get twitchy about the cost if something goes wrong.

That said, what are the reliability issues that Monaros have?
Its not just the engine.

Figure say a clutch...brake discs/pads, exhaust, suspension...all of which can be considered wear and tear consumables.

The M5 goes way overboard with fancy electronic controls everywhere. All great when it works. ££££££££££££££££ when it doesnt or needs replaced.
I love the look of the new M5's, they are fantastic....but unless I was filthy rich and buying it new with a warranty, no way would I ever buy one.

Price some shocks for an M5....Price a clutch for an M5...Price an exhaust for an M5...brake discs etc etc etc

Even if something does break on the Monaro, for the most part, given its common sense simple design ( yes cheap in some ways ), it means that any repairs will be affordable.

mft

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Saturday 2nd May 2009
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sigmund: really?

wolfracer said:
go to autotrader, you can get an FQ evo for 13k...which will get you to illegal speeds quicker than a Ro, but that's not the point is it?
Indeed no - I am tempted by the Monaro's relative anonymity and long-legged comfort. And even its relative economy on long runs. This is for work - a thrashy Jap box definitely wouldn't suit, and nor would anything heavily breathed on - I've done the modified thing, and will again, but this is meant to be a (fairly) sensible daily.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 2nd May 2009
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Jag S-type R or XK-R. Lovely motors and quick. Chipped E60 BMW 530d, quick and economical. Audi S4 V10 or maybe a 2004 RS6? There are loads of cars to choose from if you have imagination.