How does the alarm work ??
How does the alarm work ??
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SimonV8ster

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258 months

Monday 4th May 2009
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Got a query about the alarm.

If I unlock the car using one of the remotes then everythings fine, if I unlock it using the key (same key fob as earlier) then the alarm goes off (using the normal car horn tone). If I lock the doors again with the remote and then unlock again and then get in the dash displays a warning saying that the drivers door was opened. This all sounds fine and I guess is how it should be ??

I would have thought that maybe using the key would disable the alarm as well as what happens when the battery runs out in the key fob ?

Now, when I use the other key fob and unlock it remotely, when I open the drivers door another alarm goes off - a higher pitched alarm (it has an after market Cobra alarm system) so this reacts differently compared to the above. Even if I lock it again remotely and unlock it the alarm remains on for a while before it goes off. Its as though the second key doesn't switch off the Cobra alarm but does unlock the doors.

I know its an aftermarket system so you may not be able to help but does it sound like the second key needs to be programmed ? If so, should this be done by a Cobra/alarm specialist or a dreaded Vauxhall dealer ?

Any advice appreciated.


S600VXR

5,877 posts

230 months

Monday 4th May 2009
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Bin the aftermarket alarm, more hastle than their worth IMHO.

Magic919

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231 months

Monday 4th May 2009
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When the battery runs flat in your standard fob:

1. Unlock car - Alarm goes off.

2. Turn ignition on - Alarm stops.


SimonV8ster

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Monday 4th May 2009
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Magic919 said:
When the battery runs flat in your standard fob:

1. Unlock car - Alarm goes off.

2. Turn ignition on - Alarm stops.
Ok cheers - i'll have to remember that !!

monkfish1

12,437 posts

254 months

Monday 4th May 2009
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S600VXR said:
Bin the aftermarket alarm, more hastle than their worth IMHO.


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SimonV8ster

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Monday 4th May 2009
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Well OK, if I bin the aftermarket system how the bloody hell do I get it all out ??!!

monkfish1

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254 months

Monday 4th May 2009
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SimonV8ster said:
Well OK, if I bin the aftermarket system how the bloody hell do I get it all out ??!!


Take it back to the people who fitted it. If its installed like most of them, it wont take long! Remove the cover under the glovebox and most of it will probably fall out!

MC

54 posts

226 months

Tuesday 5th May 2009
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I assume the second remote is the Cobra Alarm remote?

Cheers,
MC.

SimonV8ster

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Wednesday 6th May 2009
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MC said:
I assume the second remote is the Cobra Alarm remote?

Cheers,
MC.
Well, I'm not sure !! That would mean depending on which key fob I pick up i'll be arming/disarming different alarms which would seem odd ??

If the second one is the cobra alarm then its still not working as when I unlock it remotely and open the drivers door it goes off !!

MC

54 posts

226 months

Wednesday 6th May 2009
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SimonV8ster said:
Well, I'm not sure !! That would mean depending on which key fob I pick up i'll be arming/disarming different alarms which would seem odd ??

If the second one is the cobra alarm then its still not working as when I unlock it remotely and open the drivers door it goes off !!
Sorry didn't phrase my question terribly clearly, what i meant was, are both of the key fobs you use the standard ones that come with the car?

MC.

SimonV8ster

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Wednesday 6th May 2009
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Yep - both look identical - just work it different ways, as my neighbours have found out much to their dissapproval smile

_AJ_

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234 months

Wednesday 6th May 2009
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I may have missed something, but you are only ever using one system to lock and un-lock the car right? You must not lock with the key, and un-lock with the Cobra fob or vice-versa, as they're using entirely different systems.

There are no problems with after market alarm systems, and for an insurance company that demands Thatcham Cat 1 there's no other way around it, AS LONG AS THEY'RE FITTED CORRECTLY!

I have a Clifford system on mine, and you either use the car system (key), OR the fob for the after market system, but never mix by using one to lock, and the other to un-lock.

SimonV8ster

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Wednesday 6th May 2009
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I am only ever using one way to lock/unlock the car its just that IF i use the second key fob to do it it works in a different way to the first.

I can obviously happily continue to use the first key fob as it works fine just worried about when I need to use the second and it has different characteristics.

Off to an alarm installer I think.........

Yorkkie

544 posts

259 months

Wednesday 6th May 2009
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Hi the alarm was fitted by a reputable dealer. The 2 key fobs you are refering to are both monaro key fobs, Only one key is synchronised to the Cobra alarm the other key was always kept as a spare. The reason for installation was to satisfy the Thatcham alarm situation and gained a significant reduction on insurance premiums.

Andy

Edited by Yorkkie on Wednesday 6th May 14:26

MC

54 posts

226 months

Wednesday 6th May 2009
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And there we have it, clearly it's all working as it should be smile

MC

SimonV8ster

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Wednesday 6th May 2009
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Yorkkie said:
Hi the alarm was fitted by a reputable dealer. The 2 key fobs you are refering to are both monaro key fobs, Only one key is synchronised to the Cobra alarm the other key was always kept as a spare. The reason for installation was to satisfy the Thatcham alarm situation and gained a significant reduction on insurance premiums.

Andy

Edited by Yorkkie on Wednesday 6th May 14:26
Oh I see. Well i've been using the non-cobra key up to this point !!.

The cobra sync'd key does not seem to operate correctly at the moment as when I lock the key with the remote and then unlock it and open the door the alarm goes off - maybe the battery is just going flat in the remote. I'll replace and see how I go. thumbup