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Moanro5.7

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7,337 posts

209 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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Sorry but iam board so wondered if anyone could answer me a question.

Why are jaffa cakes kept in the biscuit isle in the shops when it clearly says its a cake?

can anyone help me iam all confussed lol

MoonMonkey

2,341 posts

243 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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Under UK law, no Value Added Tax (VAT) is charged on biscuits and cakes — they are "zero rated". Chocolate covered biscuits, however, are subject to VAT, currently 15%. McVities classed its Jaffa Cakes as cakes, but in 1991, this was challenged by Her Majesty's Customs and Excise and the case ended up before the courts. This may have been because Jaffa Cakes are about the same size and shape as some types of biscuit, and particularly because they are commonly eaten alongside, or instead of, traditional biscuits. A question that the court asked itself was "what criteria should be used to class something as a cake?"

McVities defended its classification of Jaffa Cakes as cakes. In doing so it produced a 12" Jaffa Cake to illustrate that its Jaffa Cakes were simply miniature cakes.

McVities argued that a distinction between cakes and biscuits is, among other things, that biscuits would normally be expected to go soft when stale, whereas cakes would normally be expected to go hard. It was demonstrated to the Tribunal that Jaffa Cakes become hard when stale. Other factors taken into account by the Chairman, Mr Potter QC, included the name, ingredients, texture, size, packaging, marketing, presentation, appeal to children, and manufacturing process. Contrary to a commonly held belief, whether something is considered a 'luxury item' is not a test for VAT purposes.

Mr Potter ruled that the Jaffa Cake is a cake. McVities therefore won the case and VAT is not paid on Jaffa Cakes

SimonV8ster

13,022 posts

258 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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Jesus Christ !! Where the fk did you spring from to answer that ??!! laugh

Were you randomly searching different forums in case sombody asked the question 'Are jaffa cakes biscuits or cakes ?' !! rofl

Moanro5.7

Original Poster:

7,337 posts

209 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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Thanks mate, was almost lossing sleep over that one lol

MoonMonkey

2,341 posts

243 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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SimonV8ster said:
Jesus Christ !! Where the fk did you spring from to answer that ??!! laugh

Were you randomly searching different forums in case sombody asked the question 'Are jaffa cakes biscuits or cakes ?' !! rofl
I knew someone, one day, would ask a question that I could answer!!!

Seriously though I can't take the credit. I searched on Wiki and all was revealed but don't tell anyone wink

Moanro5.7

Original Poster:

7,337 posts

209 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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MoonMonkey said:
SimonV8ster said:
Jesus Christ !! Where the did you spring from to answer that ??!! laugh

Were you randomly searching different forums in case sombody asked the question 'Are jaffa cakes biscuits or cakes ?' !! rofl


I knew someone, one day, would ask a question that I could answer!!!

Seriously though I can't take the credit. I searched on Wiki and all was revealed but don't tell anyone



You must be as board as me if u looked it up lol

broadslide

739 posts

230 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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I've just eaten 4 Jaffa cakes.

Moanro5.7

Original Poster:

7,337 posts

209 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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well theres no many calories in them so thats ok lol


With tea or coffee tho? lol

Bonnie and Clyde

11,701 posts

222 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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I love Jaffa cakes but cant eat one or two. Have to eat the whole pack. And with tea. Always tea
HTH

scottlzp

961 posts

211 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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The world record for eating jaffa cakes in a minute is four, you arent allowed to drink and you have to finish one before you start the next, try it!...I did and I managed four and a half!!Sad I know!!!

SimonV8ster

13,022 posts

258 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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scottlzp said:
The world record for eating jaffa cakes in a minute is four, you arent allowed to drink and you have to finish one before you start the next, try it!...I did and I managed four and a half!!Sad I know!!!
So you're the new world record holder for eating Jaffa cakes in a minute ?

So there you are -

You can have your cake and eat it afterall. smile

Edited by SimonV8ster on Saturday 13th June 19:46

Volante

19,631 posts

223 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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Is it true the orange bit is actually apricot? It distroyed my vision of Jaffa cakes being kings of the world when I heard that. IS IT TRUE?! rantingconfusedconfusedconfused

Wolfracer

2,074 posts

236 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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The difference between a cake and a biscuit.....

Cakes go hard when stale and biscuits go soft when stale.

Still no idea why a cake is in the biscuit aisle though...?

scottlzp

961 posts

211 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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SimonV8ster said:
scottlzp said:
The world record for eating jaffa cakes in a minute is four, you arent allowed to drink and you have to finish one before you start the next, try it!...I did and I managed four and a half!!Sad I know!!!


So you're the new world record holder for eating Jaffa cakes in a minute ?

So there you are -

You can have your cake and eat it afterall.

Edited by SimonV8ster on Saturday 13th June 19:46

Suppose I am, well equal anyway, whats Norris McWhirters number or is he dead?

scottlzp

961 posts

211 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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Volante said:
Is it true the orange bit is actually apricot? It distroyed my vision of Jaffa cakes being kings of the world when I heard that. IS IT TRUE?! rantingconfusedconfusedconfused

Im afraid so, I read it somewhere,sorry to disillusion you!

Moanro5.7

Original Poster:

7,337 posts

209 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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Thanks for all the great answers and iam not so confussed about jaffa cakes lol but why is shotrbread kept in the biscuit isle but caramel shortbread is in the cake section in Tesco`s no make sense to me lol (i think i need to get out more )

007 VXR

64,187 posts

217 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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Moanro5.7 said:
Thanks for all the great answers and iam not so confussed about jaffa cakes lol but why is shotrbread kept in the biscuit isle but caramel shortbread is in the cake section in Tesco`s no make sense to me lol (i think i need to get out more )


think you get out to much now!! just dont keep driving the car to the supermarket !!!lol.. nuts

scottlzp

961 posts

211 months

Saturday 13th June 2009
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Moanro5.7 said:
Thanks for all the great answers and iam not so confussed about jaffa cakes lol but why is shotrbread kept in the biscuit isle but caramel shortbread is in the cake section in Tesco`s no make sense to me lol (i think i need to get out more )

You really need to get over these cake/biscuit based dilemas biglaugh

phillg

313 posts

239 months

Sunday 14th June 2009
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Who's tried the strawberry Jaffa cakes?

crisisjez

9,209 posts

235 months

Sunday 14th June 2009
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Why is Orange Jam called Marmalade?