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I think this is more of threat by the BIB they are hoping any person given a ticket pays the fixed penalty, I have been informed that it is extremely hard to get a correct reading from a decibel meter due to background noise, distance, location, weather ect it really needs to be done in lab conditions and then only giving like for like test results......as always they are hoping the public are ignorant.....but having said that if there is a problem in certain residential areas with really excessive noise they have got try and enforce it somehow.
93db is fairly quiet. And the annoying thing is...there is NO legal noise limit.
Yet if you were to phone the police about a rapist serial killer next door having a massacre and causing lots of noise....they wouldnt even bat an eyelid about it.
Start an engine that makes a little noise, and now they are going nuts ???
ALthough to be fair...there are a lot of cocks over here in Corsas and Hondas etc with s
te Powerflow exhausts that just sound ridiculous, and they deserve a ticket even before they start their engines
Yet if you were to phone the police about a rapist serial killer next door having a massacre and causing lots of noise....they wouldnt even bat an eyelid about it.
Start an engine that makes a little noise, and now they are going nuts ???
ALthough to be fair...there are a lot of cocks over here in Corsas and Hondas etc with s
te Powerflow exhausts that just sound ridiculous, and they deserve a ticket even before they start their engines"During the first trial in Newton Abbot, Devon, a driver was fined £30 when his car exhaust was making more than three times the acceptable level of noise."
Hmmm, more than three times the acceptable level of noise, which they detail as being for an exhaust up from 82-89, so going by their wording the car exhaust was making in excess of 267db?
Gotta love press trying to scare the average people who read their articles...lets just put that fictional figure into perspective:-
Jet engine = 140dB
Goodbye to your ears hearing tissue = 180dB
Loudest sound possible = 194dB
What the report should have said was either that it was 3db over the acceptable level of 89db (i.e. 92db) or if we're dealing with a reporter with even an ounce of sense >15db over the allowed limit (+10db is approximately a 2x loudness of defined level, +20db is approximately 4x loudness of defined level)
As Stevie says above, they're just trying to make more money for the christmas ball while the real criminals have more time to do what they want...
Hmmm, more than three times the acceptable level of noise, which they detail as being for an exhaust up from 82-89, so going by their wording the car exhaust was making in excess of 267db?
Gotta love press trying to scare the average people who read their articles...lets just put that fictional figure into perspective:-
Jet engine = 140dB
Goodbye to your ears hearing tissue = 180dB
Loudest sound possible = 194dB
What the report should have said was either that it was 3db over the acceptable level of 89db (i.e. 92db) or if we're dealing with a reporter with even an ounce of sense >15db over the allowed limit (+10db is approximately a 2x loudness of defined level, +20db is approximately 4x loudness of defined level)
As Stevie says above, they're just trying to make more money for the christmas ball while the real criminals have more time to do what they want...
I wonder can the reporter or newspaper be taken up for printing false statements ??
I remember emailing a news reporter years ago...a wker called M Breen for the Belfast Telegraph. He wrote a totally false report about a motoring event at Bishopsscourt, and how residents apparently complained.
Needless to say he never replied though.
Pretty sure a few weeks later some form of retraction was printed though...as he had totally made the story up, and received a lot of comaplaints about his story.
They shouldnt be allowed to print scaremongering lies like that.
I remember emailing a news reporter years ago...a w
ker called M Breen for the Belfast Telegraph. He wrote a totally false report about a motoring event at Bishopsscourt, and how residents apparently complained.Needless to say he never replied though.
Pretty sure a few weeks later some form of retraction was printed though...as he had totally made the story up, and received a lot of comaplaints about his story.
They shouldnt be allowed to print scaremongering lies like that.
Bonnie and Clyde said:
We were told that we may want to put the silencers in once we've had the headers fitted. but we want it loud. Are we going to get into the shyt i wonder.No mel don't worry!
The LOUD pedal will do exactly what it says! be sensible in built up areas and people won't even turn around to wonder what is coming...be silly and small children and grannies fall over with the shockwave even before you reach them.......
On another note just to muddy the water...
"The scale for measuring intensity is the decibel scale. The threshold of hearing is assigned a sound level of 0 decibels (abbreviated 0 dB); this sound corresponds to an intensity of 1*10-12 W/m2. A sound which is 10 times more intense ( 1*10-11 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 10 dB. A sound which is 10*10 or 100 times more intense ( 1*10-10 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 20 db. A sound which is 10*10*10 or 1000 times more intense ( 1*10-9 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 30 db. A sound which is 10*10*10*10 or 10000 times more intense ( 1*10-8 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 40 db. Observe that this scale is based on powers or multiples of 10. If one sound is 10x times more intense than another sound, then it has a sound level which is 10*x more decibels than the less intense sound."
Edited by wolfracer on Sunday 19th July 22:10
J. J. said:
Each 3dB increase doubles the noise volume.....
Where did you get that info from? If you double the power being used to create the noise you get a 3db rise (which is only just noticeable to our ears), as the scale is logarithmic it means if a reference volume is multiplied by 10 then it will be heard as twice as loud (i.e 1x10+8 to 1x10+9).
wolfracer said:
Bonnie and Clyde said:
We were told that we may want to put the silencers in once we've had the headers fitted. but we want it loud. Are we going to get into the shyt i wonder.No mel don't worry!
The LOUD pedal will do exactly what it says! be sensible in built up areas and people won't even turn around to wonder what is coming...be silly and small children and grannies fall over with the shockwave even before you reach them.......
On another note just to muddy the water...
"The scale for measuring intensity is the decibel scale. The threshold of hearing is assigned a sound level of 0 decibels (abbreviated 0 dB); this sound corresponds to an intensity of 1*10-12 W/m2. A sound which is 10 times more intense ( 1*10-11 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 10 dB. A sound which is 10*10 or 100 times more intense ( 1*10-10 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 20 db. A sound which is 10*10*10 or 1000 times more intense ( 1*10-9 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 30 db. A sound which is 10*10*10*10 or 10000 times more intense ( 1*10-8 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 40 db. Observe that this scale is based on powers or multiples of 10. If one sound is 10x times more intense than another sound, then it has a sound level which is 10*x more decibels than the less intense sound."
so an increase of 10 db is 100 times more intense.....
therefore an increase of 3 times more intensity only relates to a db increase of 3 db.....
Wayyyyyyyyy over my head
Bonnie and Clyde said:
wolfracer said:
Bonnie and Clyde said:
We were told that we may want to put the silencers in once we've had the headers fitted. but we want it loud. Are we going to get into the shyt i wonder.No mel don't worry!
The LOUD pedal will do exactly what it says! be sensible in built up areas and people won't even turn around to wonder what is coming...be silly and small children and grannies fall over with the shockwave even before you reach them.......
On another note just to muddy the water...
"The scale for measuring intensity is the decibel scale. The threshold of hearing is assigned a sound level of 0 decibels (abbreviated 0 dB); this sound corresponds to an intensity of 1*10-12 W/m2. A sound which is 10 times more intense ( 1*10-11 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 10 dB. A sound which is 10*10 or 100 times more intense ( 1*10-10 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 20 db. A sound which is 10*10*10 or 1000 times more intense ( 1*10-9 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 30 db. A sound which is 10*10*10*10 or 10000 times more intense ( 1*10-8 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 40 db. Observe that this scale is based on powers or multiples of 10. If one sound is 10x times more intense than another sound, then it has a sound level which is 10*x more decibels than the less intense sound."
so an increase of 10 db is 100 times more intense.....
therefore an increase of 3 times more intensity only relates to a db increase of 3 db.....
Wayyyyyyyyy over my headSorry copy and paste overload.
Don't Worry!
Edited by wolfracer on Sunday 19th July 22:12
wolfracer said:
Bonnie and Clyde said:
wolfracer said:
Bonnie and Clyde said:
We were told that we may want to put the silencers in once we've had the headers fitted. but we want it loud. Are we going to get into the shyt i wonder.No mel don't worry!
The LOUD pedal will do exactly what it says! be sensible in built up areas and people won't even turn around to wonder what is coming...be silly and small children and grannies fall over with the shockwave even before you reach them.......
On another note just to muddy the water...
"The scale for measuring intensity is the decibel scale. The threshold of hearing is assigned a sound level of 0 decibels (abbreviated 0 dB); this sound corresponds to an intensity of 1*10-12 W/m2. A sound which is 10 times more intense ( 1*10-11 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 10 dB. A sound which is 10*10 or 100 times more intense ( 1*10-10 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 20 db. A sound which is 10*10*10 or 1000 times more intense ( 1*10-9 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 30 db. A sound which is 10*10*10*10 or 10000 times more intense ( 1*10-8 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 40 db. Observe that this scale is based on powers or multiples of 10. If one sound is 10x times more intense than another sound, then it has a sound level which is 10*x more decibels than the less intense sound."
so an increase of 10 db is 100 times more intense.....
therefore an increase of 3 times more intensity only relates to a db increase of 3 db.....
Wayyyyyyyyy over my headSorry copy and paste overload.
Don't Worry!
Edited by wolfracer on Sunday 19th July 22:12
for that. I thought you had all that in your head
Bonnie and Clyde said:
wolfracer said:
Bonnie and Clyde said:
wolfracer said:
Bonnie and Clyde said:
We were told that we may want to put the silencers in once we've had the headers fitted. but we want it loud. Are we going to get into the shyt i wonder.No mel don't worry!
The LOUD pedal will do exactly what it says! be sensible in built up areas and people won't even turn around to wonder what is coming...be silly and small children and grannies fall over with the shockwave even before you reach them.......
On another note just to muddy the water...
"The scale for measuring intensity is the decibel scale. The threshold of hearing is assigned a sound level of 0 decibels (abbreviated 0 dB); this sound corresponds to an intensity of 1*10-12 W/m2. A sound which is 10 times more intense ( 1*10-11 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 10 dB. A sound which is 10*10 or 100 times more intense ( 1*10-10 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 20 db. A sound which is 10*10*10 or 1000 times more intense ( 1*10-9 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 30 db. A sound which is 10*10*10*10 or 10000 times more intense ( 1*10-8 W/m2) is assigned a sound level of 40 db. Observe that this scale is based on powers or multiples of 10. If one sound is 10x times more intense than another sound, then it has a sound level which is 10*x more decibels than the less intense sound."
so an increase of 10 db is 100 times more intense.....
therefore an increase of 3 times more intensity only relates to a db increase of 3 db.....
Wayyyyyyyyy over my headSorry copy and paste overload.
Don't Worry!
Edited by wolfracer on Sunday 19th July 22:12
for that. I thought you had all that in your headit was a few years ago, all I remember properly now is each db increase is 10 times the intenity of the original sound....whatever that means.
why am i shouting?!
Edited by wolfracer on Sunday 19th July 22:19
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