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Hi guys and girls, was board and on the web found a few interesting sites, but that another topic 
.
But i did come across an artical about a HSV car called the coupe4. Does anyone know anything about this car? is there any on the road? There any in this country if the car is real?
Found a pic
. But i did come across an artical about a HSV car called the coupe4. Does anyone know anything about this car? is there any on the road? There any in this country if the car is real?
Found a pic
I would say it would help if it is 4WD for getting power down. Very nice car
The car is real and was produced by HSV. More details here http://www.exoticcarsite.com/pages/hsv_coupe4.htm
Not aware of any being imported into the UK and none were sold by Vauxhall. Mine isn't a Coupe4 but I did buy all the various body parts and had them fitted to my CV8 as well as the Coupe 4 wheels which were produced for the car.
Not aware of any being imported into the UK and none were sold by Vauxhall. Mine isn't a Coupe4 but I did buy all the various body parts and had them fitted to my CV8 as well as the Coupe 4 wheels which were produced for the car.
Harryoz said:
The car is real and was produced by HSV. More details here www.exoticcarsite.com/pages/hsv_coupe4.htm
Not aware of any being imported into the UK and none were sold by Vauxhall. Mine isn't a Coupe4 but I did buy all the various body parts and had them fitted to my CV8 as well as the Coupe 4 wheels which were produced for the car.
Thought so. What do you think the quarters would be on that. With it being 4WD would it help with traction?Not aware of any being imported into the UK and none were sold by Vauxhall. Mine isn't a Coupe4 but I did buy all the various body parts and had them fitted to my CV8 as well as the Coupe 4 wheels which were produced for the car.
Well checked around Australia and could only find one for sale, But as said before if it did not work on the roa they might not of sold that well. But sounds good
www.carbuddy.com.au/buy/car.aspx?car=2004-HSV-COUPE-4&adid=43146&pg=1&mk=HSV&md=COUPE&v=4&rwc=2&sort=99&tid=8527431
www.carbuddy.com.au/buy/car.aspx?car=2004-HSV-COUPE-4&adid=43146&pg=1&mk=HSV&md=COUPE&v=4&rwc=2&sort=99&tid=8527431
Bonnie and Clyde said:
If it wasn't for the age of it i'd admit to loving that as much as the ro. What rubber is it running on i wonder. Looks very beefy from behind. Traction must be great
Here is a review on the coupe4 and its not good, but looks awsome :
www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleDetail.aspx?ArticleID=43724&vf=22
Found it......
HSV Coupe 4
David Morley, The Sydney Morning Herald, September 22, 2007
You can't judge the HSV Coupe 4 by its price tag, discovers DAVID MORLEY.
Not only wasn't the Coupe 4 a good all-wheel-drive, it also looked wrong.
Less than the sum of its parts Holden Special Vehicle's Coupe 4 model had a fair bit going for it on paper.
It was powered by a large-capacity V8, was all-wheel-drive and based on the sexy Monaro bodyshell; a car that made red-blooded Aussie males sit up and take notice.
Yet the car was a poor seller even by HSV's small-volume standards and failed to live up to its promise on the road.
What went wrong?
Let's look at each element in the recipe, because the Coupe 4 was one of those classic cases where the end result is less than the sum of its parts.
HSV's version of the Chevrolet LS1 engine was better than the cooking Holden stuff, but even HSV's magic touch couldn't alter a couple of LS1 realities.
The first of those was that even at 5.7 litres, the engine didn't really punch hard from low in the rev range. And that's precisely where you'd expect a big V8 to be doing some of its best work. Even before the test drive had arrived at the first traffic light, the reality had failed to match the expectation for many people.
The issue was made worse because of the intricate suspension and driveline of the all-wheel-drive Coupe 4. While two-wheel-drive HSV cars of that era could be fitted with effective exhaust headers to squeeze out 285 kilowatts, the Coupe 4 was stuck with a rather less efficient set of manifolds, so at 270 kW peak power was down on the rest of the HSV pack. Add the extra weight of the all-wheel-drive system and the Coupe 4 was less frisky than it should have been.
And HSV will soon tell you that charging a premium for a performance car that's actually down on performance compared with its stablemates is always going to be a tough row to hoe.
The LS1's other problem consists of a litany of quality issues that saw some engines with rattly top-ends and others with a frightening thirst for oil. Some had both.
Either way, the oil-burning woes were enough for many cars to have replacement engines fitted. HSV and Holden went above and beyond to sort things out for their customers, but the spectre of crook quality control has marred the LS1 experience for many.
The other problem was that the end product looked, well, wrong.
The all-wheel-drive platform was a fair bit wider across the front and rear track than a standard Monaro, so HSV had to resort to tacky looking wheel-arch extensions to make the car street legal. The guard flares might have looked pretty good on a mid-'70s SLR/5000 Torana, but on the Coupe 4, they were duff.
If all that wasn't enough to sink the car before it even hit the showroom, there was the problem of transmission choice. More specifically, the lack of it.
Holden only ever developed the all-wheel-drive platform with the four-speed automatic transmission in mind, so that's all that could be fitted to the Coupe 4 without a lot of costly redevelopment and validation. The result was that the very car that probably should have been available with a six-speed manual wasn't.
Add it all up and you can see why the Coupe 4 will not be remembered too fondly by HSV and its customers. But what was it like to drive?
Not terrific, actually, and while the engine is lazy off idle and the four-speed automatic does its best to spoil the fun, the Coupe 4 also feels heavy and dull in both a handling and seat-of-the-pants sense.
Rev it right up and the thing would eventually start to accelerate and the grip from the four-wheel-drive platform was an eye opener, but HSV buyers have traditionally been more aligned with wheelspin and instant gratification than tyre grip and subtlety.
If you've ever wondered why the all-new VE Commodore wasn't designed with an all-wheel-drive variant in the line-up, cars like the Coupe 4 are the answer.
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ETA...
Should really look at what others have posted......
HSV Coupe 4
David Morley, The Sydney Morning Herald, September 22, 2007
You can't judge the HSV Coupe 4 by its price tag, discovers DAVID MORLEY.
Not only wasn't the Coupe 4 a good all-wheel-drive, it also looked wrong.
Less than the sum of its parts Holden Special Vehicle's Coupe 4 model had a fair bit going for it on paper.
It was powered by a large-capacity V8, was all-wheel-drive and based on the sexy Monaro bodyshell; a car that made red-blooded Aussie males sit up and take notice.
Yet the car was a poor seller even by HSV's small-volume standards and failed to live up to its promise on the road.
What went wrong?
Let's look at each element in the recipe, because the Coupe 4 was one of those classic cases where the end result is less than the sum of its parts.
HSV's version of the Chevrolet LS1 engine was better than the cooking Holden stuff, but even HSV's magic touch couldn't alter a couple of LS1 realities.
The first of those was that even at 5.7 litres, the engine didn't really punch hard from low in the rev range. And that's precisely where you'd expect a big V8 to be doing some of its best work. Even before the test drive had arrived at the first traffic light, the reality had failed to match the expectation for many people.
The issue was made worse because of the intricate suspension and driveline of the all-wheel-drive Coupe 4. While two-wheel-drive HSV cars of that era could be fitted with effective exhaust headers to squeeze out 285 kilowatts, the Coupe 4 was stuck with a rather less efficient set of manifolds, so at 270 kW peak power was down on the rest of the HSV pack. Add the extra weight of the all-wheel-drive system and the Coupe 4 was less frisky than it should have been.
And HSV will soon tell you that charging a premium for a performance car that's actually down on performance compared with its stablemates is always going to be a tough row to hoe.
The LS1's other problem consists of a litany of quality issues that saw some engines with rattly top-ends and others with a frightening thirst for oil. Some had both.
Either way, the oil-burning woes were enough for many cars to have replacement engines fitted. HSV and Holden went above and beyond to sort things out for their customers, but the spectre of crook quality control has marred the LS1 experience for many.
The other problem was that the end product looked, well, wrong.
The all-wheel-drive platform was a fair bit wider across the front and rear track than a standard Monaro, so HSV had to resort to tacky looking wheel-arch extensions to make the car street legal. The guard flares might have looked pretty good on a mid-'70s SLR/5000 Torana, but on the Coupe 4, they were duff.
If all that wasn't enough to sink the car before it even hit the showroom, there was the problem of transmission choice. More specifically, the lack of it.
Holden only ever developed the all-wheel-drive platform with the four-speed automatic transmission in mind, so that's all that could be fitted to the Coupe 4 without a lot of costly redevelopment and validation. The result was that the very car that probably should have been available with a six-speed manual wasn't.
Add it all up and you can see why the Coupe 4 will not be remembered too fondly by HSV and its customers. But what was it like to drive?
Not terrific, actually, and while the engine is lazy off idle and the four-speed automatic does its best to spoil the fun, the Coupe 4 also feels heavy and dull in both a handling and seat-of-the-pants sense.
Rev it right up and the thing would eventually start to accelerate and the grip from the four-wheel-drive platform was an eye opener, but HSV buyers have traditionally been more aligned with wheelspin and instant gratification than tyre grip and subtlety.
If you've ever wondered why the all-new VE Commodore wasn't designed with an all-wheel-drive variant in the line-up, cars like the Coupe 4 are the answer.
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ETA...
Should really look at what others have posted......
Edited by wolfracer on Wednesday 22 July 22:44
wolfracer said:
I remember reading somewhere that the 4wd didn't work that well in a converted rwd car, making it heavy, cumbersome and slow due to all the extra weight..... seemed a good idea on paper but the reality was not so...
They can be made to work well and go quick with a few mods.
The Adventra wagon used the same system as the Coupe4.
How does a twin turbo, 516 AWKW 6.8lt LS3 that does 0-100 kph in 4.1 secs sound?
Thes vids are with a s/c before it was stroked.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD-jG4tVTDo
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwOr5hTXxGo
www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQwtf57xKpE
Edited by V-Car on Wednesday 22 July 23:58
crisisjez said:
Thats about the same figures that Ringram got with just 2
Nice sound though.......
0-96 (0-60) in 4.2 so not quite so good, but yeah. I was seriously looking at a C6 until I saw they only do 12.8 sec quarters.Nice sound though.......
So they are no faster than what some of us have now. I guess the Z06 is better but its a bit too much. I will/must restrict myself to one vehicle!
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