I want one...............just the cam
I want one...............just the cam
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donk r8

Original Poster:

2,755 posts

226 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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This has been on my favourites for quite a while now, can anyone tell me the spec of the cam, I know it won't pass mot over here but I can listen to that all day.....

www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5Ct7Zs27mQ




How come the Aussies can get away with it...................

Drew SS

2,683 posts

214 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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yeah thats sweet alright and we can get away with it because we dont live in a revenue raising country well thats my thoughts on it...

stevieturbo

18,101 posts

277 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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A lot of the rules with modified cars are a lot stricter in Oz than they are here.

Over here, whilst we do get hassle....we can almost do what we like and still remain fairly legal.

It's gradually getting into more of a strict regime though, where we arent allowed to do anything. So enjoy it while you can.

Drew SS

2,683 posts

214 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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there strict enough with what u have on ur vehicle and they always look for road worthyness as long as its safe on the road there fine about it...

ringram

14,702 posts

278 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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Have a look on the ls1.com.au forum Im pretty sure they posted the spec on there.
Probably a 23x cam.

Marco1958

141 posts

240 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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Sounds F***ing awesome i ll take two please

Bonnie and Clyde

11,701 posts

222 months

Friday 7th August 2009
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Love itcloud9 The cam on the monkfish demos good although it did sound like it was going to cut out. Col's getting some cam thing done when the fish start doing them.

broadslide

739 posts

230 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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Sounds just like my 67 C10 stepside. LT1, Holley 650 and Eddlebrook intake and straight thru exhaust. And just for you Gareth a TH400 to make it go. Lumpy as hell on tickover and you can smell neat gas coming out the back. cloud9driving

stevieturbo

18,101 posts

277 months

Saturday 8th August 2009
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I'd agree with Richard. Doesnt sound like a huge cam...but its probably on a tighter LSA than many go for.


My old 5.7 that had a 230/236 on 112LSA sounded similar. But I truly hate a lumpy idle. It just gets annoying.

Even my idle at present isnt totally smooth, but its not bad.

Vez

239 posts

288 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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SO you recon that can be achieved and meet emissions?

stevieturbo

18,101 posts

277 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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only way is to buy one and find out.

And as most know...some MOT testers are friendlier than others.

ringram

14,702 posts

278 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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stevieturbo said:
only way is to buy one and find out.

And as most know...some MOT testers are friendlier than others.
+1 most cams arnt a problem as above.

But for example the rule of thumb in the US is 0 overlap at 0.050 cam duration for emissions states.

So stuff on 114 in the low/mid 22x range "should" be close.
hack overlap formula is (intake + exhaust)/4 - LSA * 2
Use 0.050 durations. Hack because that only tells you valve events at 0.050 not actual events.

Comp's 216/220-114 would almost definately pass with cats but in my mind is a bit small.
The bigger the engine the larger the cam you need.

The cam in the video will have plenty of overlap as Stevie says, that means it will idle rough, be more likely to be jerky in gear at low speed etc.

I know Roger has done cam tests so knows what passes. Im not sure if he has tested the largest cam that will pass ok or not as he prefers smaller cams. Mark may also have a good idea at Rapid. Best to ask them.

Or do what I did and get a 2 piece cover for easy cam changes and buy the cam best suited for your goals with the idea that if it misses emissions target you can swap down in size a bit easier. (or up for that matter!)

ringram

14,702 posts

278 months

Sunday 9th August 2009
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After some poking around http://www.ls1.com.au/forum/showthread.php?t=88296
It is indeed a 23x cam and power was over 400rwhp.

Drew SS

2,683 posts

214 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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custom cam 233@50 605 lift on intake 238@50 609 lift on exhaust

ringram

14,702 posts

278 months

Monday 10th August 2009
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Yeah, personally I like a lumpy idle. The harder the better, but I also want it to crawl along in gear with zero throttle. Otherwise traffic jams are pure hell. I also dont want any bucking at low rpm and speeds.
With the modern ecu's and the ability to tune without the maf's which dont like lumpy cams as well as Alpha-n fueling there is no reason a crazy sized cam cant be made to drive nicely.
However fuel consumption with a wild cam might not be very nice around town.
My current setup is a good compromise. Anyone interested in a cammed setup let me know at the Bathurst Bash at the Ace.